Quote:What part of fun for all don't you understand?
The whole part you keep implying.
This isnt a 'fun for all' server. Right off the bat I can list two groups of people that have very little fun here:
1. Admins, who have to put up with the kind of crap you're bringing to these forums, on top of having to babysit people in-game
2. Faction leaders who get blamed whenever one of your self-righteous independents screws up and wont take responsibility for his own actions
Sorry, but fun for all isnt something that you're going to find here. This is a "fun for those who are actually committed to having fun" server. Your stance on the matter is selfish, you want your own personal fun (lolbattleship pvpwhoring?) at the expense of everyone else, and whenever you dont get things your way you retaliate against anyone you can.
Consider the two groups pointed out above, and re-think your stance on the situation.
Right now, admins have to deal with OORP players by the minute, and faction leaders are blamed whenever those players do something out of line. That makes the game much less fun not only for the admins and factions, but also for the guy who either gets sanctioned or attacked by that faction for embarassing them just so he could pvp whore.
Now the solution proposed: Factions regulate the ships players can use and how they are able to use them. With that regulation, fewer OORP capwhores exist, the admins have fewer people to sanction, and the faction leaders have fewer complaints to put up with. Further, the guys who had their ships restricted from them - even though they may be angry about that fact - arent going to be getting sanctioned because they let the power of a battleship go to their heads, so even they end up a little happier in the end.
I rest on my opinion - you're blinding yourself to fact and reason purely out of a vendetta for events that happened in the past. At one point in time you probably got denied access to a ship or a faction because you didnt put enough effort into proving yourself, and now you lash out every time the subject comes up.
Quit acting like a 2 year old and you'll find many problems in life suddenly solve themselves
' Wrote:Please forgive me for not reading the past 3-4 pages where Akuma was spamming.
First I'd like to say that I'm glad to see some changes into the current Order. It seems dedicated players are once again trying to improve things for all of us. I think that the Orders , how should I put this , indie comunity is actually one of the capable ones , minus some people.
Now , I wasn't going to participate in this ,but since Mirage is totaly in the line of fire here I think that I should. My charecter was created quite some time ago now. Before the Bs| desided to represent the entire Order. I created her , just because I knew at that time that the current player faction did not represent the Order as a whole. That is why my Order admiral was created. Aldo I may have some plans for her in the future , Mirage is still a member of the Order and I think that I should stand up behind my creation at a time like this. Her role play has been established and is familiar with most if not all of the Order's representitives. Now , what is to happen to my story ? Since , I never saw my name being mentioned anywhere in the many Order topics , I thought that you have agreed to my role play.
Is there something I should know ? My entire story is based around her having said rank , I think I have proven my role play as such (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) . Also , not posting in all the other Order threads doesn't meen I've gone inactive. It just means that I don't have enought spare time or that the threads do not concern me.
I would very much apritiate some explanations about this matter.
Has this post gone invisible ?
Tenacity , perhaps you can clear things up abit for me.
This isnt a 'fun for all' server. Right off the bat I can list two groups of people that have very little fun here:
1. Admins, who have to put up with the kind of crap you're bringing to these forums, on top of having to babysit people in-game
2. Faction leaders who get blamed whenever one of your self-righteous independents screws up and wont take responsibility for his own actions
Sorry, but fun for all isnt something that you're going to find here. This is a "fun for those who are actually committed to having fun" server. Your stance on the matter is selfish, you want your own personal fun (lolbattleship pvpwhoring?) at the expense of everyone else, and whenever you dont get things your way you retaliate against anyone you can.
Consider the two groups pointed out above, and re-think your stance on the situation.
Right now, admins have to deal with OORP players by the minute, and faction leaders are blamed whenever those players do something out of line. That makes the game much less fun not only for the admins and factions, but also for the guy who either gets sanctioned or attacked by that faction for embarassing them just so he could pvp whore.
Now the solution proposed: Factions regulate the ships players can use and how they are able to use them. With that regulation, fewer OORP capwhores exist, the admins have fewer people to sanction, and the faction leaders have fewer complaints to put up with. Further, the guys who had their ships restricted from them - even though they may be angry about that fact - arent going to be getting sanctioned because they let the power of a battleship go to their heads, so even they end up a little happier in the end.
I rest on my opinion - you're blinding yourself to fact and reason purely out of a vendetta for events that happened in the past. At one point in time you probably got denied access to a ship or a faction because you didnt put enough effort into proving yourself, and now you lash out every time the subject comes up.
Quit acting like a 2 year old and you'll find many problems in life suddenly solve themselves
Faction leaders should not be blamed when anyone except anyone in their faction screws up.
Factions should not regulate it as there is a system in place and there is also proof of the corruption that happens when it is allowed to go on.
*Sigh.* I provide evidence of what happens when it is allowed, and I am the two year old. Ask every faction you know whether I have asked for something and been denied it.
I wont take anything you say as canon given you aren't one of the adjudicators of Black Squadron.
Would you be willing offer more information on the potential to break from the mould should the appropriate RP, history and commitment be shown and written?
This isnt a 'fun for all' server. Right off the bat I can list two groups of people that have very little fun here:
1. Admins, who have to put up with the kind of crap you're bringing to these forums, on top of having to babysit people in-game
2. Faction leaders who get blamed whenever one of your self-righteous independents screws up and wont take responsibility for his own actions
Actually, since these are voluntary positions it's pretty clear people do them because they want to, in large part for the power it gives them.
Some people never have enough power though, so they invent things that let them push others around when there is no need to.
Hence the whoring of indies by the factions members.
The truth is nothing is broken, if you see an oorp ship you are free to report it, as per the rules, instead people make up issues as an excuse to bully. It's rather sad.
I think OORP players should be reported, yes. However, that often does not actually end up in a good resolution (many reports fall through and don't end up in sanctions). Not all registrations are designed just to eliminate OORP, as that'd be a silly and unreachable goal. However, I think some registrations try and restrict things which aren't necessarily covered by the server rules, nor are really considered OORP.
Example, roleplay ideas followed by factions. Just because a Outcast Destroyer (probably a bad choice for this) enters Omicron-90, it doesn't necessarily make him OORP enough to be sanctioned. Outcasts and Nomads are enemies on the rep sheet, so it's legal from a server rules perspective. However, established roleplay suggests that Outcasts don't enter there - or maybe it doesn't, but the factions involved in the registration do believe in the nomad-respect roleplay. Maybe it's not the best way to spread this roleplay idea, as I'm sure not every anti-nomad outcast would be exiled/driven away, but it's a start... Anyway, a registration with nomad clauses can surely influence independents to roleplay like the faction, which may or may not sound good/bad/powermongering, but it is good for some roleplay ideas to be spread and "obeyed" (probably a bad word choice).
' Wrote:I think OORP players should be reported, yes. However, that often does not actually end up in a good resolution (many reports fall through and don't end up in sanctions). Not all registrations are designed just to eliminate OORP, as that'd be a silly and unreachable goal. However, I think some registrations try and restrict things which aren't necessarily covered by the server rules, nor are really considered OORP.
Example, roleplay ideas followed by factions. Just because a Outcast Destroyer (probably a bad choice for this) enters Omicron-90, it doesn't necessarily make him OORP enough to be sanctioned. Outcasts and Nomads are enemies on the rep sheet, so it's legal from a server rules perspective. However, established roleplay suggests that Outcasts don't enter there - or maybe it doesn't, but the factions involved in the registration do believe in the nomad-respect roleplay. Maybe it's not the best way to spread this roleplay idea, as I'm sure not every anti-nomad outcast would be exiled/driven away, but it's a start... Anyway, a registration with nomad clauses can surely influence independents to roleplay like the faction, which may or may not sound good/bad/powermongering, but it is good for some roleplay ideas to be spread and "obeyed" (probably a bad word choice).
I understand what you are saying here, however, the independent should be allowed to enter the grounds as stipulated by his ID. That is why he is independent, and not a part of the faction.
(That really was a terrible choice and I do not think I have to point out the holes.)
Quote:Faction leaders should not be blamed when anyone except anyone in their faction screws up.
Factions should not regulate it as there is a system in place and there is also proof of the corruption that happens when it is allowed to go on.
*Sigh.* I provide evidence of what happens when it is allowed, and I am the two year old. Ask every faction you know whether I have asked for something and been denied it.
My post was directed at akumabito, not you.
Quote:Actually, since these are voluntary positions it's pretty clear people do them because they want to, in large part for the power it gives them.
Some people never have enough power though, so they invent things that let them push others around when there is no need to.
Hence the whoring of indies by the factions members.
The truth is nothing is broken, if you see an oorp ship you are free to report it, as per the rules, instead people make up issues as an excuse to bully. It's rather sad.
And still you dont listen, but respond with nothing other than personal bias against people you believe have wronged you.
Sorry akumabito, but there's nothing left to be said - if you dont like how things are done here, leave. We dont want you here any more than you seem to want to be here.
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