Now, I'm not sure about the others, but last night I decided to trade in my Heavy Tanker for a Liberty Supertransport. Not for powertrading, for patriotism. I noticed it was 150m, some 30m more than an Advanced Train. I shrugged and handed it over, it's not that much. However, I then found that although it seems to turn a little better than an Advanced Train, it is incapable of defending itself from all but a starflea swarm, and then only if they all attack from a certain direction.
Please, if you're going to add in an alternative to the generic Advanced Train which costs 25% more and is house restricted, don't you think it should be at least as good, if not better? And, y'know, maybe have something we'd refer to as -guns-? Nerfs don't stop farmers. They stop the people who try to RP whilst trading.
Note: Just to specify, by better I didn't mean I thought a higher cargo hold. It's more the fact that you'd do more damage ramming somebody than using the single peashooter.
lib S-trans : armour 170.000 base
adv train : armour 120.000 base
it has a few advantages, too. - and the lib S-trans turns faster than the adv. train
i have only installed one single turret to enable it to fire on wrecks if it needed to do that. - considered it rather pointless giving it more active defense, cause - well.... i thought it would fly with at least one fighter anyway as an escort. - and against a player... 1 turret or 5... whats the difference.
flying a single bomber for some time on my pirate - i have NEVER experienced a single adv. train i was breaking a sweat when i was attacking it. - its guns are nice... and reassuring.. but totally useless.
i mean - it cannot "really" expect to destroy a bomber, can it?
I can't speak for any of the others but the Rheinland Train. Although it may have less guns (3), I have managed to kill npc lane disruptors with it. It does have a distinct advantage in asteroid fields even with it's emense size over the Adv. Train. Once they (ppl smarter than me) remove the engine from the windscreen we'll be good. I don't use my Trader to fight, and don't mind RP'n with 3 guns. If I fight em I'm as dead with 3 guns as I am with 7, 9 times outa 10 anyway.
The probem with the supertransport is its also much BIGGER than a adv train.... now, frankly, 1 gun can barely kill npc, nevermind players. its more of a reasurance, and a fact that its basically a cruiser-sized whale.
Yes, however the Rhein. Train is huge, and handles like a dream in asteroids. The only time I have found the size a problem is in Sig. 13. There is one lanegate entrance that has a piece of debris floating in the middle of it. Sometimes the ship due to its length hits this and messes up the dock. Other than that, the size has not been an issue for me. I can only speak for the RT however.
Edit:Oh ya and docking at Leipzig Stn. in Dresden...that thing is impossible to dock with no matter what you fly tho I have circled that baby for hours :wacko: