The ships we need

[johnpeter]

A Corsair Battleship, a lighter version of the dreadnought.

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[worldstrider]

I still like the idea of a "Xeno hostage ship". A small transport of bolted together fuel tanks for a hull. When it explodes it does large area damage.

Xenos could fly with one and threaten to "kill the hostages" if their demands weren't met. Both sides would have to be very careful if its killed due to the blast radius.

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[Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever]

I think they're definately needs to be a newer bretonian VHF. The Templar is good for assault and really kickin it to the man, but there needs to be a smallerish one that isnt so bulky.

Templar Werewolf
They're equally bulky and both need a new counterpart.

[Benjamin]

templar is rockin

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[RingoW]

@ Tinkerbell: What comes next a suizide bomber ship? Hitting the fire button let the own ship explode with a huge blast radius?
Our crazy german politicians already have prohibited paintball in blind action, because of an amok run in a school. If they take notice, discovery makes you "learn" how to commit terrorist attacks by such vessels, they will block the access sooner or later. (I may overact with this comment, but our minister of inner security is a very paranoid guy)

@ Cametheman: This would be a contradiction to your signature, would it be not?

AoM

[MarvinCZ]

Sorry, I guess was a bit overreacting there. I just hope the Xenos don't get a Xeno VHF, unless it's some variant of the Eagle in a visibly beaten shape, maybe with some small ad hoc features (please, no spikes all over the thing). If they get a new own design, I will reconsider how exaggerated that comment was.

Nothing against the Xenos, I love them. That's why I don't wish for this to befall them.

@Cam: Did you actually try the Templar? It rocks. If you still want something faster, try the HF - Paladin. (Good work on that one, Yue)

[pieguy259]

Ideas I had a while back for GC, Gaian and FA ships:

GC Ship Ideas

"Amaterasu" Class Golden Chrysanthemum Gunboat

Developed by Golden Chrysanthemum, Outcast and Blood Dragon engineers aboard Takada Shipyards with funding from Outcasts, Junkers and (it is rumoured) Bretonia, the Amaterasu was built for elegance, manoeuvrability and punishing offensive ability. Using an advanced power core developed through research into the Ekitei X-Ray Pulsar at Kawada Research Station, the Amaterasu combines form with function to strike fear into the hearts of those who would oppress the rights of Kusari women. The design of the Amaterasu is jealously guarded by the Sisterhood, and never seen outside the hands of the GC and their allies.

GC "Petal" Light Fighter

Fast, beautiful and deadly, the Petal Light Fighter was based on the design of a captured Kusari State Police Drake brought to Kawada Research Station. The ship was disassembled and intensely studied by GC researchers, who used it to hone the designs for their own prototype light fighter.
The Petal combines elegance and manoeuvrability with enough firepower to challenge any Police, Navy, Hogosha or Alliance ship foolish enough to take it on. When used in conjunction with Orchid bombers, Blossom very heavy fighters and the formidable Amaterasu gunboat, it forms part of a strike force that can make even the most hardened Kusari lawful pilot think twice before challenging them.

"Sunflower" GC Combat Freighter (Ktayn's idea, I just wrote an infocard)

With cardamine flow from Omicron Alpha and Tau-65 steadily increasing, the Golden Chrysanthemums needed a way to move their goods into Kusari space without the authorities disrupting their smuggling routes. To this end, Takada engineers, in conjunction with Outcast and Junker specialists, designed the "Sunflower" Combat Freighter. Specialising in making swift deliveries to Roppongi and back, the Sunflower combines an ample cargo hold with the capacity to put plenty of hurt on anyone trying to attack it, to make sure the GC's smuggled goods arrive intact and on time, every time.

Gaian Ship Ideas

"Star Shepherd" (//name can be changed) Class Gaian Combat/Rescue Yacht (sorta like the Salvager)

The Star Shepherd was developed by a group of Gaian engineers who clung relentlessly to their environmental ideals, upon hearing of the relentless poaching of Gaia's unique wildlife by unscrupulous black marketeers. The Cambridge-educated team eventually came up with a design that combined ample storage space for rescued animals with the firepower needed to liberate them from those holding them captive. Sadly, most modern Gaians have since ignored the true, noble purpose of the Star Shepherd, instead using it to commit acts of conventional piracy against innocent traders.

"Dirk" Gaian Light Fighter

The Dirk was developed by the Gaians with the assistance of their Farmers' Alliance allies in Kusari as the perfect strike craft against BMM, OSC and Planetform. Despite its odd-sounding name, often laughed at in police circles, Bretonian lawfuls know that this ship is not to be trifled with or underestimated - increased power rating, superb handling and a powerful punch mean the Dirk has replaced the CTE civilian series as the preferred light fighter among all self-respecting defenders of Gaia.

FA Ship Idea

"Bassuru" Class Farmers' Alliance Gunboat

The Bassuru was designed by Samura Heavy Industries for their Farmers' Alliance allies, to counter the advanced capital and fighter-class ships being developed by the Blood Dragons and Golden Chrysanthemums. Since its implementation, the Bassuru has been involved in many assaults by the Farmers' Alliance against anti-government forces and foreign shippers alike, pleasing Samura to no end and persuading them to continue bankrolling the ship's production.
Like the "Mamoru" bomber, the Bassuru has also found its way into the hands of the Gaians, who use it to strike at Bretonia from behind enemy lines.

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[Shaka]

I'd have to say that we're getting a little too excited here.

Some ship ideas are sensible, but a couple I've read are just plain ridiculous.

For example:

The RFP who already have

an AT
the phantom
the mjolnir
and could probably steal some bombers from the military if they had too

The role of police forces isn't to wage war, but too keep the peace. Even if they need heavier firepower, they can have a -limited- swat division, similar to the LPI.

In terms of ships we -need- I'd start with the homeworld ships. They're already in the mod, and could use a redo. There are already so many ships out there that nobody uses. Do we really need to make more of them?

my $0.02

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[Xing]

I am remaking the homeworld ships. See; renzu line.

But it is of my opinion police forces are somewhat underestimated.
Mjolnir is, per infocard, a police ship, but by its origin, it's just a rheinland ship like any other. The RM as well as the RFP can use it.

So let us see...

What makes the police more interesting than the military, except on a RP stand point?...

nothing at all!

They do about the same thing. They fly the same thing or so. The military has heavier weapons.

So what do we do about that?

I say we give the police, police ships. With police painting. That the military can't use.

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[ugliestmoose]

In terms of ships we -need- I'd start with the homeworld ships. They're already in the mod, and could use a redo. There are already so many ships out there that nobody uses. Do we really need to make more of them?

Truth.

Why not first remodel the Kiith, Kadesh and Kushan lines and balance those ships so that they're moderately useful, before adding all these other specialized ships? While the idea of a "Gaian Rescue Yacht" sounds...intriguing, to say the least, it would be designed for a very narrow group of people, whereas there's still no viable alternative to the Civilian shipline.


EDIT: What other ships could the police possibly need? Just ones with a new color scheme?