Ok so i saved up for a couple of days now with the state of mind thinking to myself that i feel like buying a nice cruiser so of course like anyone else i work my ass off to get myself a tidy 200,000,000 credits then fancying the look of the AI cruiser i head over and buy it. Little did i know that these AI cruisers were only issued by admin or permission to use given by admin, which is fair enough but then when they turn around and say that i should have read the ID, now that ticks me off as the AI ID isnt even sold on the same planet as the AI cruiser.
So then, would it not make sense to put in the ship description that these AI cruisers are only issued by admins and/or permission granted by admins this would have saved me, well, 93,000,000 credits to be precise and ofcourse i will see none of it back which is very annoying but thats what they say.
So then, have some common sense and put these types of things in the ship description that would have saved me ALOT of money.
Dont know if this is in the right place or if its been said before, but what the heck do i know eh?
There is a handy little Cap Ship purchasing guide around here somewhere, its pinned I believe. If you read it, it would tell you to read up on your intended ship, ask around about it, and look into what you need to make your RP, acceptable. Had you read this, and not jumped the gun on the Capital Ship, you probably would have heard about that, and could have (If you were dead set on that AI Cruiser) written a RP Story about it, and probably have gotten an Admin Approval. Don't complain, when you could have done more to prevent this untimely loss of credits than you seem to have done.
Yes. It WOULD make sense to put something like that in the ships description; something that's already been suggested, raised, discussed and I believe approved for the next update.
However, it's worth noting that one does not simply go and "buy a ship". A ship is one facet of the jigsaw that makes up a Discovery character.
A discovery character requires RP, a ship, weapons, IDs, and other equipment. All these equipment must match for a character to be "in RP".
Either you RP an AI character, and bought the AI cruiser before getting the ID (which is fine...ask the admins for an AI ID)...or....you chose an inapproprate ship in the first place.
i understand these two issues and that that was my fault for not looking into it but all i was saying is that for people who did what i did would then know before wasting credits, if its already been approved then fair enough.
On the other hand, people shouldn't be expected to pre-emptively predict these things. No where on the ship description does it say "you need an AI ID". Yes, a lot of us know better and research the ships that we intend to buy. However, those that don't get caught out, through no fault of their own, and lose a large sum of credits.
To prevent other instances of this, I would agree that such a restriction for the AI cruiser needs to be either:
- Dropped or,
- Clarified on the AI ships, since people do not have access to the AI ID unless they use programs such as Datastorm and FLStat.
I agree that you don't simply go out and buy a ship that you like the look of ingame. However, again, this is something that we all do when we're excited, and I wouldn't blame anyone for doing this when they're new and want to try out everything.
I agree with most thats been said here... People do assume (including myself) lots of things... then they find out they are wrong and chuck a temper tantrum about it. But anyway, if the ID is admin only, I think the ships should be too.
i agree thats the problem, i got excited that i finnally had saved enough credits for a cruiser and just went and got it as a spur of the moment thing, which i agree was silly but this really does need to be in the description to stop it from happening to other people.
' Wrote:There is a handy little Cap Ship purchasing guide around here somewhere, its pinned I believe. If you read it, it would tell you to read up on your intended ship, ask around about it, and look into what you need to make your RP, acceptable. Had you read this, and not jumped the gun on the Capital Ship, you probably would have heard about that, and could have (If you were dead set on that AI Cruiser) written a RP Story about it, and probably have gotten an Admin Approval. Don't complain, when you could have done more to prevent this untimely loss of credits than you seem to have done.
I don't think you quite understood his point, Jacob. His point is that this information should have been readily available WITH the ship at the time of purchase. People should not have to search the forums or anywhere else for this information. Admins owe this guy 93 mil to reimburse his loss.
There's far too much to read on the forums as is. And this information is not in the "rules" section. His loss is equivalent to a sanction. Read a few sanction reports and you'll see that those who "violate the rules" loose guns and money. But this guy didn't violate any rules ... so why is he being sanctioned (loosing his ship equal to 93 mil)?