I wholeheartedly agree with what @tyro wrote, especially with the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th paragraph. I don't mind fighting with you, but I hate that you act like some pseudo-police of the Tau 37, 23, and 29 systems.
Well I can just mirror Final's statement again.
It's rough politics, and rough policy, nothing more, nothing less.
Yes, we *are* trying to establish a Colonial Republic in the Taus.
We own only 44 though, but we do have influence throughout the Taus and our ships reach out throughout the Taus.
The Outcasts come alone attacking us, not the other way around.
First of all, Cali is a minor outpost, not a station which can support a myriad of capital ship fleets.
Tau 29? We rarely go to Tau 29, simply because little interests us there.
Innocent Junker traders? Would you give me a break?
We are in a state of war with the Outcasts, and anyone who supports their economy is privy to a lot of hate and bullets from our side, and
we'd be idiots not to do so.
Pseudo-police? I honestly do not know what that is supposed to mean.
If you mean that we're a sizeable force in the Taus, that we have numerous fighter and bomber squadrons scowering the general area for whatever might threaten our interests,
if you're saying that we have a strong navy which we utilize to it's maximum potential, if you're saying that you hate how
we've been a blight on the Outcasts and the Cardamine and Slave industry, then my friend,
I completely agree with you.
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Straight, pragmatic business. Well... and some moral stuff too.
RP-ly, the president has an electorate so he made a move to appease some of the abolitionists/Human rights = Ban on organs/slaves.
More RP-ly, Since the patrols are already sent, they might as well make sure the Outcast economy is weakened. Maybe it's just -my- point of view, but any faction in Tau 23 would consider weakening these dreaded pirates highly beneficial. (In a perfect, forum-deal-deprived 1.0 reality I mean)
' Wrote:I wholeheartedly agree with what @tyro wrote, especially with the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th paragraph. I don't mind fighting with you, but I hate that you act like some pseudo-police of the Tau 37, 23, and 29 systems.
Seeing our moving space has been made very small.
Seeing we now are CR and not IMG ( ID )
What would you have us do?
Stay all day in tau 44 and kill each other?
If you play a smuggler you have a chance of being stopt by any faction who is against Cardi (this being in there space )
Now the CR have only tau 44 to them selfs seeing IMG haz there own IMG gaurd system.
If i understand you correctly we should trade all day long and only fight when the outcast wish this?
We should not stop any smugglers at all because they are junkers trying to make a living?
And again above outcast bases?
why are you pointing the finger to one side?
I my self had so many encounters with outcast shooting up Java station/or any other station we where !
Again this is a RP server every one has his own char and faction you pick what you wanna be.
We made our choice we are Colonials .
You choice is Outcast so be it don't complain we are near your home.
Because this is nothing new right?
might sound like a rant but hey! you keep bringing up the same stuff.
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Quote:What would you have us do? Stay all day in tau 44 and kill each other?
Not at all. As far as I'm concerned, you can fly around the Taus as much as you like, just don't act like some kind of Tau police and a paragon of moral purity, while at the same time you ally with Corsairs.
' Wrote:Not at all. As far as I'm concerned, you can fly around the Taus as much as you like, just don't act like some kind of Tau police and a paragon of moral purity, while at the same time you ally with Corsairs.
Again Tau police thing.....
Would you like us to fly all day and only shoot npc's?
We are last i checkt one of the most targetd factions by the outcasts.
this being mostly Indie's .
The outcast bring the fights to us we dont invade alpha every day every hour because we can.
And still every(99%) outcast entering the tau's scream KILL EM!
so we stop smugglers?
does not every lawfull faction do this?
we are friendly with corsairs yes thats right and why?
Because of the outcast that have us both as enemy perhaps?
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Well every side always believes they're right. There's no good and evil side. There's just the victor, and the loser.
We'll of course behave like we're the paragons of humanity as that is the opinion our nation has of itself. Same like many others do. Nothing wrong with that there.
Allying with Corsairs? Well, yeah, we do, but that doesn't make us some sort of moral-lacking people.
The bad experience other factions have with Corsairs, who earn at their expense, see them as evil, but why should a Colonial see them as evil?
They supply us with goods, weapons, and keep one of our main enemies, the Outcasts, at bay from the other side.
It's an alliance of extreme necessity, and good relations were born from it, and it's grown into something bigger.
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My friend told me about your visit in Gamma, whole fleet with transports, gunboats, bombers. I am curious what did you take back? Corsairs can offer you only one commodity... Did you become smugglers? *laugh*
You are talking much about bad Outcasts guys, and now you are Corsairs ally. They both are only different sides of the same coin. Lawfulls join to Corsairs community? It looks like, you lost your virginity and become hypocrite.
Your transponders say you are part of IMG, but your ID and your behaviour says different. IMG are nice and friendly guys, who even if don't like you, if you left them peace, they don't bother you.
Your behaviour is much different, you shouldn't use IMG transponders, it would ruin their reputation. Maybe you should buy new transponders from your ally Corsairs?
You harass everyone who come through Tau space, not only Outcasts and Junkers. You CDing everyone, you interrogate every trader, you pursue everyone spotted on the radar. But you are talking, you are not Tau police, ok, then you must be pirates... but wait, you don't demand money, you demand cargo or life, and not only Cardi... it is something like Xenos... ahhh.. I know, you are... terrorists!?
oke last attempt from me to make sense of your posts.....
Yes we visited Gamma and What ya think?
We brought NOTHING back with us.
And yes corsairs are friendly/allies to us.....
And as it has been said many time's live with it!
you can post it in RP or not i don't care
we have been here a long time and some ppl think good of us and some bad.
the point being we are not here to please you nor any one else
we play because we want to.....
Yeah we have IMG tag as we long have had....
So we are terrorists you say good give us that ID and we will do everything you have claimd us to do.
So far i see this as a attempt to complain about the CR may i ask why?
Got shot up to much? died one to many time's by the CR?
lost your Cardi run because we stop you?
This has NOTHING to do with us as faction this is just you and losing your trade route or something.
We have not done any thing against the rulezz or against our ID or faction guidline's.
We don't fly in massive CAP numbers we are fighters and bombers mostly.
And still we aint right for this server?
We RP every attack or scanning.
Im sorry but for the ppl that wish to see us change to corsairs or of the server
it aint gonna happen posts like this give me even more reason to stay .
Only thing they do for me is shows me how small minded some ppl are to ruin other ppl their fun
because they dont agree with us.
you dont have to like us you may even hate us .
But our RP is our RP you dont see me complain about every time we get overkilld?
Or every time i get pirated or stopt by any ship?
I would welcome you to fly with us for some time you might see what CR is really about.
And what we get to deal with ingame then maybe you will leave it be ...
For now fly safe stay safe and dont haul Cardi in tau 23 we might halt you and let you drop your cargo.. :cool:
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As for that event i do not know i am quite inactive at the moment. Although this police force idea i have no idea where it has managed to take hold.
Yes we do scans in tau space for a good reason. It weaken's enemy economy, it is that simple. From my idea of RP this seems quite reasonable. The thing people don't like is that it isn't strictly OUR space. True there are a large number of groups with presence in the tau systems. However same can be said for any system in the game. Even house systems have a large amount of different NPC's in thier systems.
Put it this way if the CR tried to trade through Alpha or systems close to it we would expect to be pirated as a lotta people around there might not have a good view of us. They would want to weaken us. Which is fair enough. They would do this by either blowing our ship to hell. Or forcing us to drop cargo. Possibly with a financial levy.
What we do in tau space at last look is similar to this. It is just that we can do the same thing in a more organised fashion. This may give us a look of a police force from some peoples point of view. But we only stop a group of goods which we can be very sure is enroute to the Outcast forces. Simply hoping that they will run out of funds to operate thier fleets, by targeting thier main income source cardamine. Which just happens to be a highly addictive substance. It would not matter to us if it was H-Fuel from this standpoint. We would still want to cripple our enemy (Although of course we couldn't attack due to rules). As In-RP we have a lot less vessels then them we are using guirilla style warfare (I am Including all player ships + NPC's. As they would all be the same in such an arguement. If you think of it this way CR is outnumbered by Outcast shipping). Taking out thier supplies.
So to finish Police force no... Colonial Military attacking in a considered manner yes.