GC 'Orchid' Bomber

[Jamez]

Since heavier (58k gen) bombers seem to be setting the way forward for bombers in 4.85 and save the Dev team unnecessary bomber-fighter balance hassle (to an extent) I think it'd be a good idea to convert the GC Bomber to a 58k bomber. Lets take a look at the ship's infocard:

C7-F "Orchid" Golden Chrysanthemum Bomber

The Orchid is the Golden Chrysanthemum's design, to rival the Blood Dragon bomber. The Blood Dragons assisted in her development, but the Chrysanthemums had a different set of specifications in mind. They wanted something that could rival military bombers, sacrificing some agility and speed for firepower and armour. The women that drive her wanted something that could deal a nasty blow, and were willing to sacrifice some, but not all, of the maneuverability of the Blood Dragon bomber, and as design progressed, it drifted more and more from its cousin ship. Ultimately, the final prototype of the Orchid resembled a Kusari Naval Forces ship, in both form and function.

Stats

Gun/Turret Mounts: 4/0
Armor: 15700
Cargo Space: 80
Max Batteries/NanoBots: 85/85
Optimal Weapon Class: 8
Max. Weapon Class: 10
Additional Equipment: M, CM, 2xCD/T

Pay particular attention to the bit in bold. Heavy bomber sounds ideal, surely?

So, to me it looks like a win-win situation. One less controversial 'Light Bomber' and a ship that better reflects its infocard.

Thats my thoughts on it, lets hear yours. Thanks for reading.

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Andrew Skye
Starflier thrill-seeker

Evangeline Knight
Seasoned fighter pilot

Shinji Takeda
Renzu Corp ex-COO

[farmerman]

That makes a lot of sense to me - make it into a heavier bomber all around.

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[Jinx]

gotto admit - other than quick testing the model - i never used that ship ... how s it doing in pvp anyway?

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[Dusty Lens]

Word on the street has it that it's a solid performer.

That being said, don't lean too heavily on the infocards. Trust me.

[CCI45-px/Probe149]

Word on the street has it that it's a solid performer.

No, not really.

gotto admit - other than quick testing the model - i never used that ship ... how s it doing in pvp anyway?

Turns slower than Gunships/Gunboats.
May be nice when you have some other ships with you, but alone it is a fail. Even when you have 1 fighter with you and face 1 Chimaera, it is a fail. The bomber with 3rd lowest armor (ok, not such a big deal, but when you look onto Infocard (see below). Even some VHF has more. Also it's wings make it a nice target, leaving me sometimes wondering wheter i was hit or not and where when looking onto respawn screen.
If the constructors realy wanted

sacrificing some agility and speed for firepower and armour

i'm wondering where this armour/firepower is.

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In a brilliant tactical movement, i charged backwards.

[Jamez]

Word on the street has it that it's a solid performer.

That being said, don't lean too heavily on the infocards. Trust me.

Yeah, it's an alright ship. But why not lean on this infocard if it even gives an RP reason to help continue the trend of heavy bombers, which helps combat the 'bombers are too good against fighters' stuff?

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Andrew Skye
Starflier thrill-seeker

Evangeline Knight
Seasoned fighter pilot

Shinji Takeda
Renzu Corp ex-COO

[Dab]

Slow.. Low Armor.. Huge.. No more firepower than anything else of its class.. Infocard certainly isn't right.

Not a solid performer. My Challenger is a better bomber than that thing.. In every category. It can't hold its own against any other bomber, especially those found in Kusari. FA Bomber has Templar agility.. GC Bomber has some of the worst agility found in bombers. You have the two opposite sides of the spectrum. I don't mind the low armor, if we also had some agility to back it up. Currently we aren't simply a target, but we're a target that can't take much damage either. At least the Barghest, which is huge and slow, can at least take some punishment.

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[reavengitair]

Ive seen this once. It looks awesome, but it's not really that good for fighting. I always imagine it like a play-room for girls.:P

[mjolnir]

GC bomber (mass (less is better), 3 times max turning speed (more is better), 3 times reactions (more is better)):

225 1.0750 1.0625 1.0625 4.30 4.25 4.25

AFA Bomber:
250 1.0625 1.0750 1.0188 4.25 4.30 4.08

Kusari bomber:
250 1.0625 1.0625 1.0375 4.25 4.25 4.15

for comparison:
Civilian Bomber(the fastest on max turning)

250 1.0759 1.0759 1.0759 4.25 4.25 4.25

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So GC bomber is the fastest one in Kusari. It's basically just as fast as the fastest bomber in game (not counting nomad), and has better strafe than it.

Infocards are written by someone ;), without checking the stats.

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[Jamez]

People seem to be missing the whole point of this thread:

Since heavier (58k gen) bombers seem to be setting the way forward for bombers in 4.85

save the Dev team unnecessary bomber-fighter balance hassle (to an extent)

One less controversial 'Light Bomber'

I know it might be hard for some people to grasp that this ISN'T a 'buff plz' thread, but it's not.

Heavy Bomber:
Big! (GC Bomber is quite a big girl - Big enough to be a Heavy Bomber)
Slow! (The handling would be changed, similar to a Thor perhaps)
BEEFY (Somewhere around 18-20k armor)
SN SPAM! (58k Gen)

This is a great anti-cap recipe, but gets owned by fighters. Hey wait.. that's what bombers are SUPPOSED to be like.

Right, now stay on topic..

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Andrew Skye
Starflier thrill-seeker

Evangeline Knight
Seasoned fighter pilot

Shinji Takeda
Renzu Corp ex-COO