Flhook comand idea.

[pipsqueak]

Here is a simpler idea....

let the mooring go down like tradelanes....make sure it doesnt go hostile if liberty kills it.
(seen it on shattered worlds mod, there even the jump gates go down) . Even small ships can not quick dock.
Frankly I see both sides of the issue and there are kinks in the current system.

Traders need to play RP and not do lolwhat if I die I will do another trade run thing and expect blockade on Major planets. I expect LPI to rp a lil' too and look another way if offered some money.

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[looqas]

First, I haven't taken but glimpses of this thread so I'm basing my opinion mostly on the first post and topic name.

Personally I think it's very open to abuse. So, while it's a very nice idea I'd like to see more talk/chase/stuff like that.

About the mooring being shootable: Interesting idea and why not?


Then my own suggestions (I'm sorry if someone already came up with something like this):

flhook command for police to slow down the smuggler?

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Flying under radar.

[Baltar]

@ tazuras:

#1 ... please go through the MANY points I've written ... I specified HOW your command would be abused several times ... thus ... my case you haven't paid attention.

#2 ... you cannot FORCE anyone to RP ... and developing a command that makes YOU happy does NOT mean it is more in RP. But then your happiness seems to be the issue here.

#3 ... the point of playing this game is enjoyment ... this is a pet peeve of yours. We all have pet peeves. Trust me ... there's absolutely no remedy to make you happy about your pet peeve. The admins will never create a rule or a command to satisfy your pet peeve. And if you get your command or rule to solve your pet peeve ... everyone but you will be miserable.

#4 ... regarding getting paid 2450 vs 2500 making you happy ... see #2 above.

#5 ... I've read everything you've written and have provided examples of how its not gonna work. I've provided other options as did a few others that have posted in here (and whom I agree with). What about the idea of turning the docking ring red for the other player? That's new isn't it? How about my suggestion that you actually move your ship away from the docking ring and ROLE PLAY searching for smugglers?

This discussion is pointless. Thank God the admins will never create this command.

[tazuras]

I just cant say how many times I feel you have insulted me unjustly in this thread Baltar, but since you always seem to think you are right, I wont try.

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[Baltar]

Here is a simpler idea....

let the mooring go down like tradelanes....make sure it doesnt go hostile if liberty kills it.
(seen it on shattered worlds mod, there even the jump gates go down) . Even small ships can not quick dock.
Frankly I see both sides of the issue and there are kinks in the current system.

Traders need to play RP and not do lolwhat if I die I will do another trade run thing and expect blockade on Major planets. I expect LPI to rp a lil' too and look another way if offered some money.

True ... but what do you do with the lulwhutting lawful that waits by the docking ring and uses the command at first sight of a smuggler ... or anyone else for that matter? So we trade one lulwhutting non-role playing player for another. Instead of the lulwhutting smuggler ... we get a lulwhutting LPI.

[Baltar]

I just cant say how many times I feel you have insulted me unjustly in this thread Baltar, but since you always seem to think you are right, I wont try.

I'm not insulting you ... why is it that when someone disagrees with someone else its considered insulting? You just cannot accept the fact that someone disagrees with you. If you'd at least acknowledge that there's a flaw in this idea we'd get along. But as long as you continue to ignore my objection we're gonna but heads.

EDIT: I've admitted when I'm wrong many times. I've even changed my position on various issues when others have brought up good arguments. And since you've brought up the subject of being right ... take a look at your position. Pull the plank out of your eye before trying to pluck the speck out of mine.

[tazuras]

Alright, I am going to try this one last time:

@Baltar:

#1 And I have countered almost everyone if not everyone, name one i have not and i will probably be able to counter it with a quote.

#2 Maybe I cant force them to RP, but I can force them to leave an RP server for not RP'ing, as I dont feel they should be playing here in the first place if they aren't. Also, i am fighting for the hapiness of everyone who takes RP seriously in my perhaps not so humble opinion.

#3 I dont think so, as I have gotten support in this thread.

#4 Huge ships full of illegal goods going to a semi lawful base instead of a lawful base, this seems more realistic to me.

#5 I have not gone into the other options much as I believe the topic at the top is what should be discussed. If anyone who suggested them feels seriously about them, they can start their own thread, right now I am busy enough having to defend myself from you in this one.

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[tazuras]

I'm not insulting you ... why is it that when someone disagrees with someone else its considered insulting? You just cannot accept the fact that someone disagrees with you. If you'd at least acknowledge that there's a flaw in this idea we'd get along. But as long as you continue to ignore my objection we're gonna but heads.

It's not 100% perfect yet. Also, you are ignoring my counterpoints so i think we are even.

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[Baltar]

Alright, I am going to try this one last time:

@Baltar:

#1 And I have countered almost everyone if not everyone, name one i have not and i will probably be able to counter it with a quote.

#2 Maybe I cant force them to RP, but I can force them to leave an RP server for not RP'ing, as I dont feel they should be playing here in the first place if they aren't. Also, i am fighting for the hapiness of everyone who takes RP seriously in my perhaps not so humble opinion.

#3 I dont think so, as I have gotten support in this thread.

#4 Huge ships full of illegal goods going to a semi lawful base instead of a lawful base, this seems mor realisitc to me.

#5 I have not gone into the other options much as I believe the topic at the top is what should be discussed. If anyone who suggested them feels seriously about them, they can start their own thread, right now I am busy enough having to defend myself from you in this one.

*PULLING HAIR OUT OF MY HEAD*

#1 ... was in response to you saying I've not offered alternatives. You specifically stated I offered NONE. I was just saying that I HAVE offered alternatives. Had nothing to do with your counter ... has to do with you saying I did not offer any. GEEZ!!!

#2 ... not your job. Sorry ... you're not the RP police ... nor will admins act in that capacity. If they don't RP ... ignore them ... that's the only way to deal with them. It took me a good 2 years to figure that one out.

#3 ... doesn't change the fact that its nothing more than a pet peave. Some of my pet peaves are traders docking on unlawful bases to avoid piracy, traders running silent, traders saying "I'd rather die than pay" ... hehe ... funny thing on that last one ... I actually started a thread trying to get the admins to use FLHOOK to envoke the death tax. What that does is when you get killed ... the guy that killed you gets a certain percentage of your cash on hand (usually about 10%). This is actually an option already built into FLHOOK ... seen it on other servers. But guess what the response was ... not just no but ... H*** NO! So ... good luck with this.

#4 ... what about huge transports that carry 10% illegal goods mixed with 90% lawful goods? RP says you would not notice the illegal goods. But you'll have people getting ganked for having the stuff anyway.

#5 ... you're back-peddling on this one. You criticized me for not offering alternatives and now claiming alternatives shouldn't be here. There's no rule anywhere that says discussing alternatives is off topic. We ... in this community ... can discuss your idea (pro and con) ... or we can offer alternatives to your idea. But it is still on topic.

It's not 100% perfect yet. Also, you are ignoring my counterpoints so i think we are even.

Read my edit to that post. And I sent you my skype address in PM as you requested. Wanna discuss there or keep posting here?

[tazuras]

Me and Baltar talked and decided that I am right and he is wrong, ALWAYS!!!!

j/k of course. But we came up with a better idea that I will post soon.

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