High Command

[n00bl3t]

If you are able to suggest a better way for the Order and each and every faction which has trouble "organizing" it's independet community , please , feel free to share with us.

I may be wrong, but I think his point is not to organise the independents and instead let them do their own things.

So. I dont think we are here to be arguing about the HC

We're meant to be deciding new members. People have started voting for rogue, tazuras and ophidian.

Well, I vote for Linkus. (On a side note, the first post states whether a HC is needed or not, so that may be why people are "arguing" about the Order HC.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[ophidian]

Oh also, since he is one hell of an independent spirited player, even though I am sure that this will most probably cause friction in time, for the sake of representation, I also put a vote for Noobl3t.

Also, Eternal is right, when the character Mirage is around, not a single Order| player tries to bully the char and follow the RP.

This is a RP server and a RP council of command is a good idea to evolve around the RP.

I understand every player's will to go "la la la free spirit" stuff, I do that myself as well on some indy chars I have.

But, myself included, we have to accept that its a RP server and in RP, in RL, in any human group, you cannot have 342343243 admirals to give orders. Some kind of structuring is necessary.

Or lets just disband the vanilla order as well and call everyone with a same idea "anti-nomad people". It will be less fun in RP terms for sure.

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[Linkus]

n00bl3t, while complimented, I couldn't actually go for the HC. I'll talk to you over skype about why.

Though I would definitely vote for n00bl3t if he were to pop his hand up for HC. If I was to choose someone, it would be him.

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[pchwang]

" But as we have seen in the past, often, decisions made by members of the Council affected the player faction in negative or positive ways. Both of these results are unacceptable. "

I honestly didn't really understand this part. What exactly are you trying to say here ? The way you put it , the faction should always be in a stand still and not develop itself at all.

I explained directly below the excerpt that you quoted, here:

You are an official faction. While independents deserve as many rights as you do, they do not have the right to exercise control or influence over your faction. It is a two way street.

As an official faction, "Order|" should not be controlled by players who are not within its ranking hierarchy, including those in the High Command. Like I said, it is a two way street. Factions should allow independents free reign over their RP, and independents should allow factions free reign over their RP.

You state that the High Command will not become a ruling body for the Order| faction. Great. But that does not mean that decisions made in the High Command should change or cause changes within the Order| faction itself. Those changes are up to the faction leader(SwissScorch) and the members of the Order| player faction.

Hypothetically, should the Order HC decree:

Due to the introduction of the Bastet VHF, all Nepthyses are now outmoded. They should be scrapped and upgraded as soon as possible, as our shipyards no longer produce replacement Nepthys parts.

Say SwissScorch and the rest of the Order| do not agree with this decree. As the leader of an official faction, Swiss has the right maintain a set of guidelines for the faction he leads, and should not revert to another governing body.

Now, this also applies to independents. Should the above decree have been stated by the Order| faction to all independents, it would be bad as well, since they have no right to dictate roleplay.

Neither does the HC, should it come into existence again.

Of course, many other changes and decrees are much much more subtle than the one I stated above, such as slight diplomacy changes and trade embargoes.

Also, I do not understand where you drew this from:

I honestly didn't really understand this part. What exactly are you trying to say here ? The way you put it , the faction should always be in a stand still and not develop itself at all.

What does RP evolution and development have anything to do with whether the HC influences the Order|'s roleplay or not? The HC can do whatever they wish, so long as it is within the bounds of its roleplay, and so long as their decisions do not tread over the Order|'s roleplay.

Hope that helps. If you need more clarification, meet me at Aunt Jemima's for some pancakes and waffles.

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[n00bl3t]

n00bl3t, while complimented, I couldn't actually go for the HC. I'll talk to you over skype about why.

Though I would definitely vote for n00bl3t if he were to pop his hand up for HC. If I was to choose someone, it would be him.

Understood.

Thank you for the votes of confidence, both Ophidian and Linkus, it is appreciated.:)

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Eternal]

elgatodiablo : Since arguing is in no way productive , nor helpful. I'll just say that weather Swiss wishes to listen to me , for example , or any other member of the HC about changes in the actual Order| , is entirely up to him. Each and every member of the previous HC and , without a doubt , in the new one wants nothing less then the best for the Order as a whole and does not wish to dampen , nor harm the RP of the Order| faction.
Swiss commands the primary fleet of the Order and unlike the rest of the HC members has a title which is unique for everyone of us - Grand Admiral. However , he commands only the primary fleet , the rest of Order is commanded by , supposedly , the rest of the HC.


Now , back on topic and back to reality which , unfortunately , brings us bad news. It has come to my , personal , attention that Orders space is once again begging to show signs of heavy newcomer population. This harms the RP of the Order , not to mention the RP of the server as a whole.

I suggest that the elections for new HC members should begin , as soon as possible and due to the uprising level of players under the Order's flag , restore peace and harmony to the faction. I believe that with a solid leadership of both independents and officials , a .. portion .. of these newcomers can be converted into good RPers. Not to mention that the HC presence is needed in many RP events and diplomatic matters.

Swiss , we should get started.

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[Guest]

If it wasn't of RL issues I would even try to get that seat as an independant in the HC. The HC, as stated earlier, is not a dictature, but modals in roleplay who give example to other players. All they do is (try) set people in the right direction. I never seriously considered to join the Order player faction, but I am in love with the Order in general. Ask a couple of "veterans", I have the weird habit to try to take control of a situation 'till someone competant arrives, the reason why I often just give basic orders such as "fall back":P

Now, several factions have an equivalent of a high command, including the Zoner and the Corsairs. (Since I never dealed with Hogoshas, I wouldn't know) and allies tend to ressemble each others to make relationships easier. I don't want the HC to die like this.


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