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Offline khran
06-10-2009, 10:36 PM,
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I like it but it looks too much like a really angular Order cap and I dislike the pyramid bridge. IMHO the biggest problem is that it doesn't flow properly from the shape of the desie/BS. While I don't like the blimp either, its more of a step in the right direction IMHO.

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Offline Jamez
06-10-2009, 10:52 PM,
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Mmm.. yeah that works nicely.

I hope you have a massive engine effect to fill up the exhaust.

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Offline Eppy
06-10-2009, 10:58 PM,
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' Wrote:Mmm.. yeah that works nicely.

I hope you have a massive engine effect to fill up the exhaust.

It's called 'Upscale the Liberty Dreadnought engine.':D

Quote:Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen
Eppy Wrote:Which Dreadnought was that?
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Offline Jinx
06-10-2009, 10:59 PM,
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shape is OK - sharp edges, yet an elegant design and certainly similar to the battleship ( but the battleship is a bit more.... complex with tis upper and lower levels )

the design is good. - and balancing it will be problematic.

what will be the difference between the battleship and the dreadnought? - the current dreadnought, while being somewhat more compact than the battleship is still more massive and can justify its higher stats. but what happens when the dreadnought becomes cylindrical, too? - no matter if its a long ship ( like the spyglass ) - what really matters in capital ship battles is how large it is from the front.

and i don t think you want a ship that is just identical to the battleship - cause where d be the point in that. - but there is just no way a custom ship gets stats like the lib dreadnought ( which is extremely high armour in an extremly tiny hull )
always keep in mind what it is fighting the most ( corsairs - and maybe BHGs - but from what i know, not many BHGs really go to alpha, cause its rather boring space for them ) - i don t think such behemoths like the kusari battleship are regular enemies .... but maybe the gallic battleship might "become" a more regular ( time will tell )

how will it respond to that. - the current outcast battleship is ( admittedly too large ) and rather strange compared to ships like the corsair DN, which is smaller and more compact but has more armour and weapons/power.

a flawless replace is only possible when the ships keep their shape ( or when the ship is rather unpopular anyway ) - the shape of that ship is very different from the current DN, so a new balance concept needs to be figured out by the dev team. - leaving the question... will you like it then?


for me, its most important to know - what is the role of the DN compared to the battleship. - i doubt you ll be able to make the ships as different as - for example the orca and the BHG GS. - but only that really granted that there are two choices for one shipclass.

liberty has a very tiny DN and a large carrier ( its not actually THAT large come to that - its just larger than the lib DN, but almost everything is larger than the lib DN )

a suggestion is - if its made to copy the lib DN, maybe osiris stats and a slightly larger size than the osiris might work. - giving the outcasts two very different ships ( and not upsetting much, cause corsairs have the osiris and the DN, too )

but then - the model might need to be adjusted to reflect being half the size of the battleship.

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Offline Eppy
06-10-2009, 11:40 PM,
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Don't write it off just yet. Replacing the Dreadnought model to exact specifications has always been something of a problem - so I made it bigger. This is how it's supposed to scale when it's been skinned and such. It actually has more mass than the Zeppelin. The Zeppelin's hitbox is still a little bit taller, but this one is considerably wider at the front, and, because of perspective, its forward cross section is just about the same size, or even a little bit bigger than, the Zeppelin. It almost warrants an increase in armor to compensate - but that's a fight for another day.

Quote:Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen
Eppy Wrote:Which Dreadnought was that?
n00bl3t Wrote:One of your nine. Tongue
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Offline Jinx
06-10-2009, 11:49 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-10-2009, 11:49 PM by Jinx.)
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to distinguish better - maybe you also consider to scale the battleship down a little? - its really large, i think... maybe let it become a really light battleship and have the DN step in as the heavy weight.

thats better than a heavy DN and a battleship that cannot really decide what its suppose to be.

( when you check the size comparison post LA made - you ll see that the BS is really a bit on the larger side )

http://www.redfoxpaintball.com/la384/Wallp...tFleetsmall.jpg

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Offline Eppy
06-10-2009, 11:57 PM,
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You know, I've been a bit miffed about the Battleship. When I sent it in for scaling I made it quite clear that it was supposed to be light - the size of the Liberty Dreadnought on its side, or even smaller. However, it apparently worked its way up to being medium-heavy, which is kind of perplexing. We can make a request to have it scaled down. Again. It's always been my understanding that everybody's best Dev Forum friend was ultimately in charge of scaling decisions.

Quote:Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen
Eppy Wrote:Which Dreadnought was that?
n00bl3t Wrote:One of your nine. Tongue
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Offline reavengitair
06-11-2009, 12:00 AM,
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Looks nice. Very nice.

Im also im support of this. That model is awesome.
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Offline Eppy
06-11-2009, 03:01 AM,
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Made some changes.

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I tried to make the bridge more prominent and to shore up the bow support. Made the prow segment cros-section slightly smaller, only visible from the side. Tried to expand and then eliminate the prongs at the front, neither of them work well. Lowered the keel directly under the bridge.

Quote:Quick comment - we thought that Panzer was the Leader, Swift. -Agmen
Eppy Wrote:Which Dreadnought was that?
n00bl3t Wrote:One of your nine. Tongue
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Offline RingoW
06-11-2009, 07:50 AM,
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Turn the whole frontpart including bridge and middle section upside down and attach a new Bridge at the top then. Something in shape, like Star Destroyers have.

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