Isis needs a nerf...

[Derkylos]

Also, there IS NOTHING WRONG in seeing a cap fleet in 56 or orbiting Dabadoru in my humble, tiny little opinion if in RP those stations are sufficient to give services to the fleet ships.

Just not orbiting Toledo, right?...

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[tazuras]

Just not orbiting Toledo, right?...

I think he means an allied cap fleet, you kind of took that out of context.

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[Elsdragon]

Meh, this is why i dont have BHG/Order

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[reavengitair]

Meh, this is why i dont have BHG/Order

This is why you should have bhg/order.

Mental stimulation.

[sean24]

I think if you nerf it, you gotta put another orbital base around Minor. Something like "Toledo atmospheric outpost" you know...

[Heartless]

I do find it a bit ridiculous, but considering it's the only capable npc defense in minor... I think it does it's role well.

But in general I think that docking rings should have more power to fight back hostiles.

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[tansytansey]

First of all, this is not the 'i can't camp Toledo' thread, this is about Order having easy way out of any dangerous situation in Minor, leaving the oponent option to wait until you call in more people or run..

Then, as i said, put BHG BS next to Dabadoru, give it the same firepower. Everyone cries and complains when Toledo gets camped, but when i undock from Dabadoru in my Manta to find 2 Osirises and 3 Corsair lolcruisers camping 500m from the dock, while Dabadoru can't even scratch them, screaming "OI LOOKIE teh bHg PWNPWNPWN!1!1!", it's all okay.

All i wanted here is for Isis to be normal, or at least a bit stronger then other BSs, but this is just, as Mike said, madness. You can't come within 3k of it and survive, regardless what ship you are flying in.

And Rand, about yesterdays fight...

You attacked Dabadoru, then retreated to Minor. A force of 5 bombers, GS and BC followed you. You all, even then outnubering us, having a player Osiris, just sat at Isis, making us unable to do anything. Then, even hough you overpowered us, you waited until 3 more Recon cruisers and few smaller craft showed up. At that time you outnumbered us 4 to 1 with firepower. 24 to 1 if we count in the Isis. And any time one of you lost shield or got a bit damaged you ran straight back to Isis, conviniently returning after we were forced to switch targets.

The problem here is that once you retreat to Isis, we can't touch you. While when a BH retreats to Dabadoru or Rostock, you are free to attack because those bases defenses are worthless. Only good thing is that now and then one Pulse from them manages to hit a gunboat or something bigger.

That's a much clearer post than your opening post.
*Withdraws previous comments.*

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[Dashiell]

slightly off topic here: I was just wondering: does anyone know the future storyline for the Core/Order war?
some replies in this topic about Toledo eventually being overrun made me quite curious as to how this war will evolve in the Discovery storyline.

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[reavengitair]

Im making an order system right now.

[mjolnir]

All i wanted here is for Isis to be normal, or at least a bit stronger then other BSs, but this is just, as Mike said, madness. You can't come within 3k of it and survive, regardless what ship you are flying in.

It is exactly that: normal or a BIT stronger than other BS.
Only advantage it has over other BS is 1 LM. Which flies at 600 m/s so it really can hit anything under cruiser size from over 1k. This is compensated by having less other guns than other BS. For example NPC RH BS has some 22, Liberty some 16 etc.

Any "rapid fire" is a result of a bug which can happen to any station in whole sirius and which we don't know how to counter.

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