To Collectors of the Congress Bounty

[Rudo]

Talk about rebalancing is one thing. Using the "up our ships or we uses OORP ones" argument won't convince me though.

So far it's junkers that want their ships upped. (Never heard of a faction that would want own ships nerfed btw..). When their enemies/neutral will share the same opinion there might be something that needs change. Right now it doesn't seem this way.

We've been after an agility/regen rebalance for the Collector, and a slight beefing up of the Barrager cannon/turret for some time. Do what you have to do, then offer feedback here.

Thanks for the combat experience, and thanks in advance for the feedback.

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[El Nino]

I've just setup a collector and then I'm gonna get kusarians a beating! It looks promising... 110 b/b that is sureley enough to rape...

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[Guest]

I've just setup a collector and then I'm gonna get kusarians a beating! It looks promising... 110 b/b that is sureley enough to rape...

As someone who own a collector in S13 and has tried to collect the bounty on .:j:. two times (sorry, Rud >.> ), I must say the Collector is a very large SN target, Jure. Your best would be equipping debilitators and a mini razor on the thing.

A Bulldog is a choice tho...

[Benjamin]

the bull dog is weird. it's a tiny ship with the turning of a huge one, and stats of something in between. In my mind it would be good against bombers, but i've had pretty limited success with it so far. Once again, it's not really a ship that goes with our guns. But then again what is.

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[darthbeck]

hey, if you want more testing, im up for it.... of course.. it would be congress only *cough*

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[AJBeast]

As someone who own a collector in S13 and has tried to collect the bounty on .:j:. two times (sorry, Rud >.> ), I must say the Collector is a very large SN target, Jure. Your best would be equipping debilitators and a mini razor on the thing.

A Bulldog is a choice tho...

Jures score is 4-0 right now on ... well , everyone. He got a Black Dragon , a BD VHF ( cant remember the name, a lolwutter though, the 2m or die type), a BD GB ( again a lolwutter. He had my help on this one though hehe), And the guy was using all cerbs ... what an idiot), and against me on my eagle.

[El Nino]

:DWell so far collector looks good, It is tiny aswell, it's 2x smaller than CSV (not a very large ship), I'd be supprised if I ever got SN'd in it...

We are also running a test on the testing server with junkers regarding their balance.... (mostly since the server is avaliable)

Killing those 4 was just a measure of piloting skill, but funily enough for a ship that is suppose to be highly unbalanced, I felt confident in it, it may only have 5 guns, but so does Wrath, it may be a bit ungailny but it has 110 botts, by the time you kill a black dragon you still have plenty..., The powerplant is brilliant for firing 5 guns, 3 codes and 2 barragers. While barragers feel crap, in actual combat in conjunction with 3 codes they basicly serve as a burst damage enchancer, a kind of a gimmick, not really useful, but don't hurt you if you use them either... adding additional 15% to codeweapon damage with each aimed shot...

All in All i think the balance is about right, while junkers will probably dissown me for that, anyhow if you see a .:j:.Rusty in Kusari space, feel free to engage in shameless pvp, for a fighting test....

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[Benjamin]

Yeah I've been running some tests with the collector against various likely foes (Xeno eagle, black dragon with hogo guns, manta). Gotta say, one on one, fighter vs fighter, the collector seems fine, to me at least.

But barragers...what a joke. I got a fair few collector kills during the tests, but all were razor or mines. They're just so awful. I used 4 and a 650 deb gun, and they really do nothing. I think you could literally double the damage on them and they would still suck. 600m/s and 8.33 is just terrible against fighters. And apparently the speed is not going to be changed, so they're just going to have to suck forever and we'll have to use different guns. Collector as a ship might be okay in group fights, but not with 600m/s 8.33 guns. My collector on the main server has 5 PGs. Maybe it could work with 3 codes and 2 barrager turrets too, but there it's the 3 codes doing the work. The two turrets would probably be better off as debs.
Pretty much all they're good for is shooting transports and GBs. And well, codes are better at that.

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[El Nino]

Here I was bragging how SN can't hit me in a collector... but nohes, soloing a Hogosha GB, a bomber creaped out on me, while enginekilling around the GB the damn bomber SN'd me on first try before I even spoted him.

I however had the gunboat dead to the rights... it seems collector can under the right circumstances solo a gaian GB. 4 to 1 then...

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[Dusty Lens]

it's 2x smaller than CSV

ORLY