The "Black Rhino"

[RockCrystal]

I would join DSE for this ship. Nicely done Tink!

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[El Nino]

Oh mi god, 12 class 5 turrets, that is basicly 24k of dps, something most gunboats can't mannage.... I like it!:Pa civilian gunship, simply astonishing, is it avaliable for freelancing pirates?

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[Birdtalon]

Using the AK 47 as an example wasn't a particularly good idea. It's one of the easiest weapons to get on the black market. Maybe you can't buy them in Britain or America, or anywhere else like that, but trek out to the Middle East or Russia and I've heard they're everywhere. I suppose it'd be more like getting an SA80 A2, which is what the British Army uses.

As for the ship itself, I'm morally opposed to more Libertonian ships, even if they are civilian.:P

Exactly, put this ship on a freelancer base in the border or edge worlds. Im thinking Coronado.

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[Dusty Lens]

Zomg wut.

Fair to say the ship game me a very serious laugh when I first spotted it. For a moment it struck me as a joke reply to the fleets of Trident gunships flying around Liberty.

I'm not, overall, a huge fan of kitbashing myself nor do I really see this as the type of design that DSE would be putting out. That of superglueing some of their smaller designs together. Furthermore the model itself -does- look extremely flimsy, if it were to bother executing a turn it would need a lot more re-enforcement.

But as a lulz concept? Absolutely hilarious. I about spit out my morning coffee.

As a serious concept, which I am nod adverse to in the slightest, I think that a proper model would be called for. In every sense of the statement, as I do rather like the ship.

This post does bring up a fair but sad point, there are a lot of really nice freighters out there that drop to the wayside the second someone brings together enough cash to grab their first transports. Sweet little models that serve as little more than stepping stones. I loved my Camara myself when first got one as a noob.

[worldstrider]

Zomg wut.

Fair to say the ship game me a very serious laugh when I first spotted it. For a moment it struck me as a joke reply to the fleets of Trident gunships flying around Liberty.

I'm not, overall, a huge fan of kitbashing myself nor do I really see this as the type of design that DSE would be putting out. That of superglueing some of their smaller designs together. Furthermore the model itself -does- look extremely flimsy, if it were to bother executing a turn it would need a lot more re-enforcement.

But as a lulz concept? Absolutely hilarious. I about spit out my morning coffee.

As a serious concept, which I am nod adverse to in the slightest, I think that a proper model would be called for. In every sense of the statement, as I do rather like the ship.

This post does bring up a fair but sad point, there are a lot of really nice freighters out there that drop to the wayside the second someone brings together enough cash to grab their first transports. Sweet little models that serve as little more than stepping stones. I loved my Camara myself when first got one as a noob.

That's sort of my point--though it is very much what has been done in aircraft design. European NATO aircraft are made now with interchangeable modular components that are used cross design. It makes a lot more sense to utilize standard designs that are in mass production. If one of these needed servicing, most parts could be taken from a Rhino or Camara for repairs--economcal and common ships.

I'd love to see a similar shaped fighter made or whatever but you know what? We end up with another new, funky Disco ship that moves us farther away from where we are. As suggested before hull could be halved and another alternative that would work very well is drop it down to Rhino power and maneuver and make it a mining ship with class 1-3 turrets. In theory there is up to over 1300 cargo hold available.

We have plenty of "completely orginal designs" here this is nice in keeping some continuity. It also provides a baseline--using existing stats to estimate size and performance instead of just inventing it. If all the ships were relative using common values it would give good guidelines to model creators.

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[Magoo!]

I don't think most of these people realise its a Rhino with two Camara's taped to the sides... That is to say, minus Dusty.

I must say I'm not a fan, sorry. Mostly because its just a Rhino with two Camara's taped to the sides.

[AdamantineFist]

I like the concept quite a lot indeed. I'd suggest toning down the firepower a bit, though, unless some of the turrets were made rear-firing only, as 12 fighter 5s is some REALLY impressive damage output there. Also, as to the model, if you were to integrate the outboard pontoon-style things rather more with the Rhino, it would look much better. As it is, it looks like the Xenos must have duct-taped then on.

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[Elsdragon]

Cool. But what is it? a fighter? a GS? Becaused Lib Corps cant use GS's. Boo. But if its a SHF, I would order some for Synth. Or a freighter. But 12 forward 5's is quiet a bit. they all shoot forward?

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[worldstrider]

I like the concept quite a lot indeed. I'd suggest toning down the firepower a bit, though, unless some of the turrets were made rear-firing only, as 12 fighter 5s is some REALLY impressive damage output there. Also, as to the model, if you were to integrate the outboard pontoon-style things rather more with the Rhino, it would look much better. As it is, it looks like the Xenos must have duct-taped then on.

Yep. I had a lattice made and for some reason Milkshape gobbled it up and I just didn't want to redo it. I had a version where I merged the cats in close but I just couldn't get a clean look with it. I was going from the standpopint of "off the shelf" and "mass production". Merging them is a new hull--not interrchangeable modularr components. In a real life situation, one "cat-pontoon" get clobbered, you just go grab another with the refitt kit and slap it on. That's how it would work so it would look that way. Same reason attachment struts need to be simple.

A real modeler could fix the firing arcs--outer pontoons could fire to sides and rear, forward ones to front only. That would balance it out tremendously

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[Elsdragon]

It could be a really light GS. Like Light Light. Like Freighter with guns. Lots of guns

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