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The GC ''Orchid'' Bomber
Zeltak
07-20-2009, 03:04 PM,
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' Wrote:Actually, Rheinland's Bomber only has one forward firing turret. That thing is really tiny feeling though, that's for sure. If any bomber doesn't seem to fit, that's the one, in my opinion.

Personally, I like the Orchid how it is. Adding a separate CD slot on top of everything would be pretty fancy though. I approve.

Ah my bad, the turret statement has been fixed, and yes I agree if anything should be investigated it is the Rheinland Bomber. I always viewed the Praetorian as the best Bomber in the game, I think my opinion has changed now.
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Offline McNeo
07-20-2009, 03:20 PM,
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Orchid Capacity/Recharge: 38200/1722 (light bomber powerplant)
Praetorian Capacity/Recharge: 45390/1880 (heavy bomber powerplant)
Rheinland Snubnose Capacity/Recharge: 45390/1880 (heavy bomber powerplant)
Barghest Capacity/Recharge: 47000/2350 (light superbomber powerplant)
Rheinland Superbomber Capacity/Recharge: 50880/2735 (heavy superbomber powerplant)

Im not sure if your opinion should change, the Rheinland snubnose is easier to hit for me, but that's just personal preference. The Praetorian also turns faster, by about .04 of a radian/second than the snubnose.
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Zeltak
07-20-2009, 03:23 PM,
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I think size is more prioritized on a Bomber than its turning capabilities, but you have a good point.

It just my opinion though, nothing more.
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Offline seamus
07-20-2009, 03:57 PM,
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Waran.


Nuff said?

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Offline MarvinCZ
07-20-2009, 05:53 PM,
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' Wrote:Waran.

Nuff said?
Waran is in the Superbomber class powerplant-wise (Barghest powerplant). Sure, it's not a great dogfighter, but when it fights caps / transports, it can dish out a lot of hurt.
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Offline Hawkwings
07-20-2009, 06:48 PM,
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And MarvinCZ has just won the thread.

"Sure, it's not a great dogfighter, but when it fights caps / transports, it can dish out a lot of hurt."

If you bring out a bomber, it better be to fight a bigger ship. And when that bigger ship's VHF escort starts shooting you, your own escort better engage it. Or maybe you should finish off the big ship then run away.

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Offline Bjorn
07-20-2009, 07:36 PM,
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Nighthawk, your pic shows coalition vhf, not our bomber.

Also, Orchid is a fine and agile bomber, as are all of kusari making.

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Offline Andrew_Bonesovich
07-20-2009, 08:00 PM,
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' Wrote:If you bring out a bomber, it better be to fight a bigger ship. And when that bigger ship's VHF escort starts shooting you, your own escort better engage it. Or maybe you should finish off the big ship then run away.

Exactly, this is what a lot people need to realize

If you get beaten up by fighter in a bomber, it just shows the bomber is how it should be, if you win, something is wrong (either the bomber, or the guy was too stupid to evade SNs :P)

I never saw Orchid or even fought it, but from the comparsion pic the size seems okay to me. I would need to see it in fight to decide on my opinion though.

Frankly, when I see some other bombers there, I'm about to facepalm because they are tiny.

Snubnose/Bergelmir is really small, and some others too, FA bomber, Kusari bomber, BHG bomber, they are all quite small from the front, the Ku bomber and BHG one are huge from the sides however (But I fly the BHG bomber, and its just all-round ship if properly flown)

Look at these ones, not at the big ones, those are okay. Only proper bombers in the game are Fafnir and Barghest and Waran and maybe the Recycler, in my opinion. (for example, 2 Barghests get easily beaten by one Templar, true story - the way it should be)

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Offline Virus
07-21-2009, 12:39 AM,
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I always die to fighters in my Rheinland Bomber. :/
It's heavy and doesn't strafe very well - easy to hit.


Orchid is fine. I fly it a lot. I wish it was better, but then it might be overpowered.

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Offline Dab
07-21-2009, 01:31 AM,
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I've both flown in one and flown against one. Its agility doesn't help at all..

I'd rather the Orchid be put back to slower agility but get the superbomber powerplant (Barghest plant). The infocard itself says it's meant to sacrifice speed and agility for armor and firepower.. It doesn't have the firepower with the smallest bomber plant, and it has the lowest bomber armor with the exception of the FA Bomber (which is so screwed up balance wise it's not really worth mentioning..).

Give it Barghest agility, Barghest armor, and Barghest power and I'd be happy. It's already got the size. Giving it that extra CD slot would be nice, but if it were changed into the Kusari version of the Bargh I'd say it isn't needed. If it stays as it is, I'd say giving it that extra CD slot is a good idea, considering it's the worst Kusari bomber..

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