what the hell pirates

[kikatsu]

apparently it's time to call the Cruisers in:P

pop all those silly gunboats

[Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever]

Bomberspam or Cruiserspam them. Gunboats are hardly a threat to anything.

[Jihadjoe]

I've been thinking rather a lot about this, and it seems to me that whatever you do, the scale of everything just escalates anyway.

You wanna beat gunboats? Get cruisers out.

You wanna beat cruisers? Get a battleship

You wanna beat battleships? Get bombers.

Wanna beat the bombers? Yup... Get a gunboat.

Seems it just goes on in a never ending spiral of something getting horribly spammed by someone. Can we just agree to have a bit of variation -anyway- rather than just reacting to things?

Now... Running over all of that is my belief in fairness... I don't really want to start slamming people down with something they can't touch, as it's simply not cool. If the [LN] were to start spamming cruisers/battleships to deal with the swarms of gunboats, I'm willing to put good money on the fact I'd have my inbox full of moaning and whinging PM's by the end of the week.

I'm also willing to bet there would be about 9386429736425834872542 threads in this very forum saying "The Lib Lawfuls are spamming caps and it's not fair, I thought you'd solved this problem!!!" or some varient of that.

So, how do I respond to the situation regarding the vast number of unlawful gunboats? Do I carry on with the fairness thing, or do I just say "screw you guys, I'm gunna win"... ?

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[Varyag]

I say let them complain and just lol quietly as the tears slowly dry

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[Hawkwings]

Because ignoring the problems at hand will improve the server...

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[Guest]

Pirates bitch about lawfuls and their capitals.

Navy/Cops bitch about unlawfuls and their gunboats.

It's an ever revolving door.

Just grit your teeth and bare it, it's the only thing you can do. Creating more rules just restricts the server more.

If you are about to get ganked by a mass of gunboats/large capitals then log off that character and swap to a different RP.

Or you could;
Sit with your girlfriend/wife.
Spend some time with your children.
Work on something you are writting.
Catch up on paper work.
Take a long walk.
Go and meet a friend.
Make yourself a nice, home cooked meal.

I can gurantee that by the time you finish any of those activities that the gank squad will have disappeared and you can happily log onto the character you logged off and do some decent RP with some decent people.

Remember, it's a game. Because it is a game, you have a choice to stop playing at any point.

[Cris]

Well well, I think that the problem comes from both sides, factions do great, LN LSF and LPI has a great control over their members and what ships they use; and LR also have great control over their memebers ships, but indies... Thats a whole different stories, people who come to the server seeking to buy the best biggest wtfpwner capship of all, and when they get it, (after sticking their hands to the mouse and keyboard and begin powertrading for a full month surviving only in a cheez wis and coke diet) well they want to use them to pwn everyone, given that situation I think that getting anything bigger than a bomber should be only allowed by faction permission (pretty much like getting a special roleplay), That way the indie problem would end in the long run, avoid such lofleets wtfpwns and many other nerd words, and of course add more RP to this PvP server...

lolcap = Nerd<---- thats because they like to pwn everyone, cuase in real life there is no chance

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[Baltar]

LN stopped spamming caps but the indy lolwut pirates got so obsessed with caps during it that they are now using the biggest cap they can pirate in because it makes them feel stronger. Get a group of 5 bombers together and go rape them. Tip; Triple SNAC will insta-kill any GB if they all hit the hull quickly enough that the GB can't both between them. Then you get all the nano-bots and move on to the next one. Simple.

Or better yet.. Don't go to Liberty if you get tired of it.

I do wish people would stop throwing EVERY pirate on Disco into one category. I fly a pirate in a GB and he's NOTHING like what you guys are describing. People wonder why I generalize lawfuls ... its because traders and lawfuls continually generalizing us ... and they continually make anti-pirate threads. Just take your snapshots and file a violation report. But PLEASE quit taking these things to the forums that just get people all riled up. Everybody's jumping on the bandwagon and badmouthing pirates. I've got a freaking pirate and he's nothing like what you guys are describing. Please do not lump us all into the same category.

I'mm LPI, not a trader. I HAVE to stay in liberty. Besides, 5 bombers to take out one gunboat? I thought it was 3, yet today when I went up against that rogue GB, all of us got shot down.

ARGH!

Well ... Liberty (New York in particular) has been, is and always will be the most populated with lulwhuters ... on BOTH sides. You wanna avoid the lulwhuters ... pick a faction that's not in Liberty and you'll avoid the entire headache.

Mr. Baltar,

It would appear the lawfuls worked to fix their cap issues. Pirate caps always were there, only now the lawfuls have managed to cut theirs down to a respectable number, however the pirates haven't been able to do the same. Many factions have tried, LR (denying access to dock on the bases with caps, I was a fool to be against this action when you first did it, I apologize) and all the others who tried registrations. Unfortunately they failed.

As a result we now have less lawfuls and more pirates. The balance is broken by our work to reduce capship levels. Indeed it is the lawfuls fault, that we cut our numbers down unevenly compared to the pirates.

Apparently our controlling and being reasonable set us up for the problem

So I'm gonna call out to the pirates out there, to be reasonable. You see a LF don't attack it with a GB, log something more... even. (God forbid you try a LF!)

Most pirates these days, are only out to get that little blue message. To make themselves feel good. (Perhaps to compensate for something else that is small, they fly big ships?) I haven't seen a SINGLE pirate capship that RPs yet in liberty. All just want to kill and ruin other peoples fun.

So to the pirates out there. I suggest, no... I challenge you to hop in a light fighter or a heavy fighter and see how much more fun you can have, while allowing others to have fun also.
Respectfully.

Gotta agree with you mb52 ... this type of behavior by these new pirates is unacceptable. If they wear a Pirate ID ... they need to stick to piracy. Factionized pirates need to read their infocards, repsheets and rumor mills to get a better understanding of their faction's role play. I haven't actually been able to play for any length of time longer than about 10 minutes on my laptop due to lockup issues so I'm not familiar with what these pirates are doing. But I've always advocated reducing lawful capships for the precise reason you are calling on pirates to downscale. The pirates you speak of are acting more like a military organization ... way beyond the scope of their ID's. Definitely should not see an armada going after a frontal assault on the Liberty Navy.

It sounds as though some of these pirates are more into PVP than role play. But please don't lump me and those of us who DO role play piracy into this category.

Except Baltar.

JakeSG ... Just because YOU and I don't agree on everything ... it doesn't mean I disagree with everything and everyone. If you truly believe this, then you've NOT read EVERYTHING I've ever written. I suggest you get to know me a bit more before passing judgment on me.

My #1 pet peeve ... anti-pirate threads. If you see me in an anti-pirate thread (like this one) ... then yes ... you'll see me disagreeing with a lot of people. And the vast majority of my posts are in these anti-pirate threads DEFENDING pirates role play.


@ [color=#FFCC66]Hawkwings: YES, I read your posts ... NO, I have no comment for you at this time.

[hack]

Pirates bitch about lawfuls and their capitals.

Navy/Cops bitch about unlawfuls and their gunboats.

It's an ever revolving door.

Just grit your teeth and bare it, it's the only thing you can do. Creating more rules just restricts the server more.

If you are about to get ganked by a mass of gunboats/large capitals then log off that character and swap to a different RP.

Or you could;
Sit with your girlfriend/wife.
Spend some time with your children.
Work on something you are writting.
Catch up on paper work.
Take a long walk.
Go and meet a friend.
Make yourself a nice, home cooked meal.

I can gurantee that by the time you finish any of those activities that the gank squad will have disappeared and you can happily log onto the character you logged off and do some decent RP with some decent people.

Remember, it's a game. Because it is a game, you have a choice to stop playing at any point.

Problem is, there are so many gunbaots at this point that if all we did was log off and ignore them, then we might as well disband the LPI.

Yeah, good idea, kill off a faction because people wanna be jerks.

Now, I have to agree with Baltar, not all Pirates are the problem, and yes, there is enough problems on both sides, but when it comes down to the point that a faction almost can't play, I say the problem is now hurting server play and something needs done. Perhaps a bigger hitbox for the Tridente, the most spammed GB?

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[masternerdguy]

Problem is, there are so many gunbaots at this point that if all we did was log off and ignore them, then we might as well disband the LPI.

Yeah, good idea, kill off a faction because people wanna be jerks.[color=#CC0000]

BETTER IDEA

WHY NOT MAKE SURE EVERY LPI IS ARMED WITH A GUNBOAT/BOMBER OR MORE?

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