It's not crap, realy. You go read all the flames and arguments in Skype. Also, council ect have plenty of reasons to leave, sure. But not sit infront of NY leave. Though, when we're talking 'Gallians', I assume you mean the actual propepr ones. The Monarchy and GRN. They don't have reasons to leave, 'cept total conquest.
' Wrote:It's not crap, realy. You go read all the flames and arguments in Skype. Also, council ect have plenty of reasons to leave, sure. But not sit infront of NY leave. Though, when we're talking 'Gallians', I assume you mean the actual propepr ones. The Monarchy and GRN. They don't have reasons to leave, 'cept total conquest.
You keep making this about lulwutters when I am talking about decent honest rpers. Also by Gallians I mean all gallians brigands, corse, council, grn whatever im talking the entire area of space and whoever lives there.
Secondly even the royalists kinda can leave possibly with a special rp request. Why couldnt a angry noblemen take a bunch of men who are normal criminals (not anti royalists). Have them salvage up ships (to deny council their ships since they salvage half of them and to cut costs) and then sick them on council or have them raid outcast or tau areas since said nobleman hates sirians so much that he feels that some effort should be made to "soften them up" for the hammerfall after the council is defeated. That makes sense and it wouldnt be lolwutting in liberty.
I think you and a few others have a mentality of "we were first this area is all about us" when it isnt. There are plenty of other factions that need development in gallia and the recent changes (again props to whomever did that) allow them to florish now hopefully.
' Wrote:You keep making this about lulwutters when I am talking about decent honest rpers. Also by Gallians I mean all gallians brigands, corse, council, grn whatever im talking the entire area of space and whoever lives there.
Secondly even the royalists kinda can leave possibly with a special rp request. Why couldnt a angry noblemen take a bunch of men who are normal criminals (not anti royalists). Have them salvage up ships (to deny council their ships since they salvage half of them and to cut costs) and then sick them on council or have them raid outcast or tau areas since said nobleman hates sirians so much that he feels that some effort should be made to "soften them up" for the hammerfall after the council is defeated. That makes sense and it wouldnt be lolwutting in liberty.
I think you and a few others have a mentality of "we were first this area is all about us" when it isnt. There are plenty of other factions that need development in gallia and the recent changes (again props to whomever did that) allow them to florish now hopefully.
Don't worry, we know we're not the first. It's the fact that after a while of Gallic playing people have established some sort of manner or RPing and doing things, in which, for example, a GRN leaving Gallia doesn't fit. For example an angry nobleman leaving Gallia. Just about every honest Gallian (GRN ect) beleive that leaving Gallia for the hell of it is wrong. Why? They want Gallia closed off, not opened up. I honestly doubt that if they believe this they'll go out and party.
' Wrote:Don't worry, we know we're not the first. It's the fact that after a while of Gallic playing people have established some sort of manner or RPing and doing things, in which, for example, a GRN leaving Gallia doesn't fit. For example an angry nobleman leaving Gallia. Just about every honest Gallian (GRN ect) beleive that leaving Gallia for the hell of it is wrong. Why? They want Gallia closed off, not opened up. I honestly doubt that if they believe this they'll go out and party.
When in that little hypothetical thing did I say it was grn faction leaving gallia just some of the royalist and other ships. What I preposed was a nobleman who set up a group funded getting them out of the guillotine, into chain gangs to deny council ships+get them ships, then to harry what he sees as enemies. Not even touched by grn and doubtfull if they would know about it just some rich dude setting up the royalist enemies to fail with salvaged ships. Dude will be sipping wine and living large while these dudes go out and die and give the taus, outcast and council hell.
Also Yes the royalists want gallia closed off but does anyone else there want it? No not really specially the council. In all my ranting and whining I have been wanting those other factions to get some breathing room to try to get some life into the non royalist factions. I have NEVER seen a council member. Cant you understand thats what I have been pushing for?
first off" next lolwutting whine complaint" line and we have problems this INDIE VR FACTION BS STOPS you have the id youe equal if your inline with rp i know this as even the [LN] wil lsometimes take orders from my BC but thats besiode the point
second off galias implementation seemed litrally "zomg uber pwnzors we al ldie" we have the nomads allready they shoulda been more stealthy about it(keep majority of there tech levels hidden from sirus and the council keep themselfs to there rped areas(taus orkney borderworlds ectra)
3rd off you know damn well due to vanilla rp nobodys ever gonna ally again why would they bother hateing us they got left behind because they obviously dident try or failed or wanted to go for something bigger than pratical so its there fault
im not saying its not for everyone remove it im saying either explain to people it or make it more interactable (like say let the council ectra)out
ive read ther wiki but i stil ldont understand anything its funny you say dont abuse it so you can pew pew it but from what ive seen that will happen anyway with this grand (and stupid)invasion scheme in the works oi can see itnow
lolwutting galic battleships in new york when the GRN is only in the omercrons or some BS
' Wrote:When in that little hypothetical thing did I say it was grn faction leaving gallia just some of the royalist and other ships. What I preposed was a nobleman who set up a group funded getting them out of the guillotine, into chain gangs to deny council ships+get them ships, then to harry what he sees as enemies. Not even touched by grn and doubtfull if they would know about it just some rich dude setting up the royalist enemies to fail with salvaged ships. Dude will be sipping wine and living large while these dudes go out and die and give the taus, outcast and council hell.
Also Yes the royalists want gallia closed off but does anyone else there want it? No not really specially the council. In all my ranting and whining I have been wanting those other factions to get some breathing room to try to get some life into the non royalist factions. I have NEVER seen a council member. Cant you understand thats what I have been pushing for?
You don't have to ask about stuff for me to say something. I mentioned the GRN since they're mostly associated with the nobles. Also, the other factions need breathing room? I don't see why they can't do what we do. We're active enough, got events and all. Why couldn't the opposition do the same thing? Would they need to get out of gallia for that?
Also, if you've never seen a council member, I suggest you play more Gallia. They're around.
Quote:ive read ther wiki but i stil ldont understand anything its funny you say dont abuse it so you can pew pew it but from what ive seen that will happen anyway with this grand (and stupid)invasion scheme in the works oi can see itnow
Get some one to explain it to you or get a manual.
Quote:lolwutting galic battleships in new york when the GRN is only in the omercrons or some BS
How is this different from any other faction? Such actions are the result of moronic players, not factions.
Edit : And on a random note, people will always complain. Right now Gallia is as it is. It's been forged in the fires of awesomeness by quite alot of dev people and discussed in majority. If it was seen as 'wrong' then, it would've changed. You can't make everybody happy, and this seems like the best way of doing it. 'To who?!' To me and quite alot of other people.
Y'know, I already voiced these facts in your past topic when you were whining about Gallia, but apparently you didn't bother to read it, so I'm going to post it again:
The reasons for Gallic ships and weapons remaining in Gallia make perfect sense.
For all factions: When a House that has been hidden from the rest of the Sirius Sector for CENTURIES suddenly is revealed, what do you think the first reaction to it would be? Suspicion. Fear. Gallia is a place the other Houses have very little information about. They have no idea how dangerous Gallia is. If I had to guess, the official governments would at least be unfriendly, if not openly hostile.
The Council: The Council are currently engaged in a brutal civil war. If they lose, they will die. They don't have time for exploring the rest of Sirius; they have to rely on the rest of Sirius coming to them, hopefully attracted by their cause. They are stretched thin as it is and divided between two systems - they can only really operate in Gallia.
The Gallic Brigands: The other Houses are surely monitoring the Orkney jump hole... they have enough unlawfuls to worry about, and would surely kill any pirates or raiders trying to escape.
The Maquis: The same as the Council, only the other Houses would probably kill terrorists on sight.
The Unione Corse: They don't want anything to do with Sirius, as stated in several news topics in Gallic bars. They fear other Sirius unlawful groups will move into their territory and disrupt their business. They're perfectly content in Gallia.
Any other Gallic factions: They retain a firm belief in isolationism and the fact that they believe the other Houses to be the cause of their sabotaged sleeper ship. They are loyal to the Crown and hate outsiders with a passion, regardless if they side with the Council or not. If they tried to leave, they'd by shot by the Council anyway.
So the factions of Gallia stay in Gallia, along with their respective weapons, just like other factions and their weapons remain in their respective zones of influence.
Is that so damn hard to understand?
Jimmy, you obviously didn't read the Wiki, and if you did, then you obviously have to learn how to read.
First of all, your first point makes no sense - we can't deny anyone from making an independent GRN character. I have nothing against them; in fact, I group with one yesterday and it was a great time. I have a problem with people taking that independent GRN character and abusing it with some crazy ooRP scheme.
Second of all, I'm not even sure what your second point is trying to suggest, but Gallia HAS kept its level of technological superiority secret. The rest of Sirius has no idea how strong Gallia is. Sirius has no idea what's going to hit them.
Third of all, your third point PROVES you didn't read the Wiki, because Gallia was founded by the French Sleeper Ship that was SABOTAGED BY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE ALLIANCE. If you and 5 others were trapped in a grave, and you helped the other 5 get out, but when you moved to get out, they hit you in the damn head with a shovel so you fell back down to die, would you be pissed? I'd be pissed, especially if it would murder my entire nationality. If you don't understand why Gallia has a grudge against Sirius, you're thick.
And Salorn, to shoot down your "little hypothetical situation", the "angry nobleman" would either be shot by Council forces as he tried to escape in Sirius or would be detained by the GRN or GRP because he could be a deserter or a spy trying to escape the kingdom. And then he'd be shot. Usually in civil war, people are shot first and then asked about later... high stakes put everyone on edge.
God damn it, people. Igiss and the development team crafted a beautiful story here. Can't you just appreciate it and enjoy it? If you can't, THEN QUIT *****ING, because it's not going to change anything, and is only making yourself look like an idiot while making the rest of us angry.
' Wrote:Problem 1: Day to day I hear about Zoners claiming they should be able to travel Gallia without threat from Gallic Royals. Answer: You're Sirian, Regardless of what type of Sirian, thats the bottom line and end of discussion. Deal with it, Expect any and all kinds of hostilities from Gallic Royals.
Problem 2: "You're Police! You can't do that!!!!111one" Answer: Gallic Police aren't your everyday house police. They CAN Pirate you if we choose to do so. Personal RP: The only GRP I have, is Marcel Touvier, whos RP is more of a GRP Licensed Bounty Hunter whos a fortune seeker in whatever shape or form it may come.
Problem 3: So your a Junker, you've run into Marcel Touvier, your shocked you might be pirated by this Gallic Royal, someone who you believe should be your ally Personal RP: See Problem 2. Likely, you were suspected of being a Sirian Junker. Sure, your a Junker, but your also Sirian. Think of Marcel as a Purist.
Problem 4: Sirian? This isn't Sirius little one. Answer:THIS IS GALLIA!
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