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---Speaker: Honorable Grand Admiral Marvin J. Orphelia---
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Now, this is outrageous. It looks as if Bretonia's animals has attacked once again...
This time, we successfully caged them. This treaty has another nail in its coffin...
One Zoner Gunboat was lost, however... This slaughter shall not go on.
Like I said, we will prevent any such attacks if you will do the same with the Corsairs.
I notice that in your image, Corsairs are flying friendly colours to yourself. It appears that the rumours of Corsairs being your allies has some merit, unfortunately.
Remember that the Corsairs annihilated all life on Cork with thermonuclear warheads. Your friends and allies attempted to commit genocide. You should be ashamed.
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---Speaker: Honorable Grand Admiral Marvin J. Orphelia---
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And as yet, Please note the Armed Forces signals and the Challanger Bomber... Yet again, Bretonia at its worst... Hypocrisy...
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---Speaker: Honorable Grand Admiral Marvin J. Orphelia---
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And as yet, Please note the Armed Forces signals and the Challanger Bomber... Yet again, Bretonia at its worst... Hypocrisy...
Well, I said that we were able to stop them, had we the inclination. We do not, however. Our boys are too busy shooting your Corsair allies, I'm afraid.
We can and will stop these scoundrels with false colours from attacking, with force if necessary, if you are able to send the Corsairs packing back to where they came from.
Surely you understand how we feel? Have we not experienced the exact same? Have people not attacked Bretonia, or annihilated planets, from Gran Canaria? How can you complain to us when people falsely claiming to work for the Queen attack you? If you want us to try to help you, try to do the same for us, unless you seem to like seeing the so called Privateers in the Omegas, and Corsairs in Bretonia?
' Wrote:You claim neutrality, so we offer the chance to practise it, and we shall do the same.
We can't allow you to host our enemies, just as you can't allow us to do the same.
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Yours,
Sir Arthur Caithness
just one question. when your enemies ask us to deny bowex landing rights you will welcome that?
when kusari ask us to deny all ships leaving bretonia landing righs, you will welcome that?
neutral to all, mean neutral to all, not neutral to you only and making what you will, only for staying neutral.
on our bases can dock corsairs and bretonians together, and both can feel safe... that is neutrality...
' Wrote:just one question. when your enemies ask us to deny bowex landing rights you will welcome that?
when kusari ask us to deny all ships leaving bretonia landing righs, you will welcome that?
neutral to all, mean neutral to all, not neutral to you only and making what you will, only for staying neutral.
on our bases can dock corsairs and bretonians together, and both can feel safe... that is neutrality...
captain of zoner trade ship globalp-svk
Corsairs need your docking rights. We don't. Therefore, giving us docking rights, and Corsairs docking rights does not carry the same weight. We don't get something we need. The Corsairs do, so that they can commit genocide easier.
"you are speaking of "allies" - you must know that the zoners are only allied to the Gas Miners Guild, a group of people far far away from bretonia. the zoners do not have other allies.
the business we do is our own, - or in other words .. literally, none of your business. there are many rumors and it is a skill to decide which one is true and which one is untrue. - following every rumor is foolish - and somewhat dangerous, too. - it can lead to a loss of respect and reputation in mild cases and more dangerous consequences.
for example - i heard a man in a bar at the IMG freeport 4 gabble about outcasts and bretonia. - yet, we would not judge bretonia based on such rumor - or in turn, the outcasts. of course, if we were foolish, we might even assume that bretonia has .... ah.... "an understanding" with a group of - i think commonly regarded as "pirates" that are also somewhat "close to nomads" - my oh, my - another rumor!
you see - if we were to follow each and all rumors about alliances, friendships and all - where would humanty be? - right... at the doorstep of the neighbour, wielding weapons and shouting threats.
a very unpleasent view into the future - is it not?
yet, we zoners would not dare to accuse bretonia to have an understanding with the outcast. cause we know where our place is in political matters. - i do wonder why your place is within our politics. - you accuse us of an alliance that does not exist. - any zoner on any station will testify that the zoners are not allied to the corsairs. - of course - you only have my word; and that of thousands of other zoners about it.
amazingly - even the bounty hunters guild would most probably testify that the zoners are not allied with the corsairs - and they really dislike each other.
now - since there is no alliance, - and if you heard of one, - it is certainly just rumor.... i do not believe that any "agreement" needs to be made further to the agreement we already made with .... the official bretonian goverment.
sincerely, CoZ member - Elizabeth Tate, captain"
// before you counter that: - zoners are allied with the GMG and the order - and thats it. - everything else does not apply - creating convenient alliances out of nowhere to have a reason to fight is one sided.
if you wish the zoners to be allied with the corsairs - do it in cooperation WITH the zoners. - but please don t do it one sided only - especially not when one side does not agree with these terms.
' Wrote:from: E. Tate, CoZ
to: mr Arthur Caithness
"you are speaking of "allies" - you must know that the zoners are only allied to the Gas Miners Guild, a group of people far far away from bretonia. the zoners do not have other allies.
the business we do is our own, - or in other words .. literally, none of your business. there are many rumors and it is a skill to decide which one is true and which one is untrue. - following every rumor is foolish - and somewhat dangerous, too. - it can lead to a loss of respect and reputation in mild cases and more dangerous consequences.
for example - i heard a man in a bar at the IMG freeport 4 gabble about outcasts and bretonia. - yet, we would not judge bretonia based on such rumor - or in turn, the outcasts. of course, if we were foolish, we might even assume that bretonia has .... ah.... "an understanding" with a group of - i think commonly regarded as "pirates" that are also somewhat "close to nomads" - my oh, my - another rumor!
you see - if we were to follow each and all rumors about alliances, friendships and all - where would humanty be? - right... at the doorstep of the neighbour, wielding weapons and shouting threats.
a very unpleasent view into the future - is it not?
yet, we zoners would not dare to accuse bretonia to have an understanding with the outcast. cause we know where our place is in political matters. - i do wonder why your place is within our politics. - you accuse us of an alliance that does not exist. - any zoner on any station will testify that the zoners are not allied to the corsairs. - of course - you only have my word; and that of thousands of other zoners about it.
amazingly - even the bounty hunters guild would most probably testify that the zoners are not allied with the corsairs - and they really dislike each other.
now - since there is no alliance, - and if you heard of one, - it is certainly just rumor.... i do not believe that any "agreement" needs to be made further to the agreement we already made with .... the official bretonian goverment.
sincerely, CoZ member - Elizabeth Tate, captain"
I believe that one of your Juggernaut Captains posted evidence of an alliance, ma'am. You will find no Outcasts on Bretonian bases. You will find Corsairs on Zoner soil. There's a big difference, ma'am... we have evidence, unfortunately, to which you retort "It's a secret!"
Keeping secrets like that is going to make one assume the worst.
Also, you openly allow them to stay on your bases, in spite of the Cork Holocaust. What decent human could do such a thing?
Surely you wish to prevent such acts of terror? Surely you are as opposed to piracy and nuclear genocide as we are? Can't we work together to stop this scourge?
.::Incoming Transmission::. Message to : Whom It May Concern
Comm ID: Shipmaster, (]c[)
Location: Freeport 15, Omicron 74
While I can't speak for the Council or for the entire Zoner community, I would like to kindly ask all Zoners here to keep their comments silent until such time as the Zoner Council can discuss this matter in chambers and come up with a unified answer.
so what? - a relative of mine saw an outcast dock with a bretonian installation. - does that make the bretonians accomplices of the cartel of alpha?
if you are on your rightful crusade - why did i never get news of you guys heading to the "people" that wasted cambridge? - you do remember that? - but yes - that is probably... "rumor" - as much as the later installed orbital defense around cambridge.
there is a time for war, a time for peace - and there is also a good time to see reason and to stop in dignity what was started. - who knows... when its done "in time" - history forgets about it. - when such a moment passes though....... - it sticks to memory and comes out at very unpleasent times.
so - i do strongly suggest your "forces" to get political, - think again - and abandon that cause... and who knows.. maybe no word will be uttered about it anymore. you, sir, may even enter history as a considerate person - who saw the signs in time.
fail to do it - and history might find another name for you. - there are predecessors that threatened and ambushed their neighbours in human history "for a greater good" or just "for revenge". there is still time - no serious harm was done that cannot be undone.
i apologize to have spoken up, mr lightwing, your message arrived too late - i will stay away from pleading for reason now and will wait for the CoZ to make a unified decision."
// - zoner neutrality is like the corsairs craving for food. - if you deny that faction characteristic, corsairs can also RP not to need food anymore, outcasts can RP not to need cardamine anymore. - neutrality is not a convenience, it is an obligation.
' Wrote:.::Incoming Transmission::. Message to : Whom It May Concern
Comm ID: Yev Lightwing, Shipmaster, (]c[)
Location: Freeport 15, Omicron 74
While I can't speak for the Council or for the entire Zoner community, I would like to kindly ask all Zoners here to keep their comments silent until such time as the Zoner Council can discuss this matter in chambers and come up with a unified answer.
I can't force anyone, but I'm asking kindly.
Regards,
Yev Lightwing, CoZ Delegate.
I would like to extend my thanks to this intelligent chap. I'm more used to dealing with Rheinlanders, who have an efficient system of governance, and allocated speakers. This, frankly, is a shambles, I'm afraid. Having numerous poorly informed individuals yelling at myself is not conducive to a healthy diplomatic relationship, I don't think.