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[Dab]

Comm ID: Aurelia Silvan

This pathetic squabbling is getting on my Nerves.

Its obvious you have little knowledge about current affairs than the average civilian. Its also obvious, that you know much less than one would think about your own enemies. The AW are not Zoners. The Zoners are not AW. The AW use Zoner stations as bases, in response to the defense the AW has provided the Zoners against such people as the Phantoms, and C.C.E, and even the SF who have tried before to board our station. Also, for keeping the Corsairs in check and sure that they do not attack us in Theta since we refused to allow them a base in our system.

The Zoners and AW are together for mutual defense, and though we Zoners have a military fleet, it is not up to the task of keeping the Phantoms and SF at bay, both of which have shown war-like tendencies in the past, even allying a terrorist organization, known as the Coalition, to accomplish their goals of coming into control of the Omicrons.

We do not for a moment think the SF will stop their ways if we refuse to allow AW access to our stations. So we enlist the AW's aid in our defense, of which they have proved very capable, and willing to do.

I have also reviewed countless AW reports about attacks, and your memory seems to have failed you. Yes, the AW had assisted the HF in attacking Cambridge, and this attack had resulted in the destruction of your medical frigate. But if you will remember, both AW and the ship's faction, HF had called the Medical frigate off-limits to target. The HF leader had punished this rogue captain for his acts, and the SF seem unwilling to pay attention to their enemies.

Among these reports are other papers. From the readings of these, I have found it quite clearly, the reasons behind this war that is perfectly legal. The HF and SA had gone into war, mostly around California. If you'll remember, the AW did not enter that war, and only showed support for HF by escorting them through Bretonia as they had been attacked without warning or reason in that area before. However, the SF seemed quite eager to begin the attacks of three AW bombers who did nothing but defend a trader that had Zoner ties in Cambridge. Even after said trader was attacked by a Corsair, you maintained your stance that the defense of a friendly trader was not acceptable. But I see plenty of Bretonian traders with escorts. Shall the Zoners simply turn a blind eye to the fact that SF forbids the Zoners to defend themselves against pirates? If not for the AW's refusal to leave the system and the trader, than he would have died due to the SF's slow response to his threat. YOU caused the war between your two organizations, YOU opened fire upon them, in an unlawful act against lawful targets.

You seem unable to accept the consequences of your actions, and now hope that we Zoners will abandon the same people who have protected us and our system, as well as the peace in this system, because you can't stand against them in this war? What do you think would be the status of traders in our system if we did not have a force to prevent piracy and terrorist acts here? (OOC: BTW Koolmo, please learn to differentiate between escorting and attacking you.. We escorted your train from Omega-41 JH to Corfu and back twice. If we had wanted to attack you, we would have shot at you, instead of sitting 1k and staying in Theta after you jumped.)

And the false accusations of AW attacks on civilians? Are you blind, or just in serious need of glasses? Not one civilian has fallen to AW ships. AW has attacked nothing more or less than pure military targets in any system. Even the act of taking prisoners from Leeds was a propaganda lie, and bluff that the SF called on.

The Zoners are neutral to the Xenos (OOC: people, check the rep lists to see who is enemies with whom for god's sake) and will remain such. The Xenos offered to help us defeat the SA and SF in California. Why would the AW refuse such help from a party they are neutral with? The factions present had NAPs until the fight was completed. The SA and SF are greater enemies and less common enemies, so the pirates put their differences aside temporarily until this threat was defeated. The AW and HF then left as the pirates went about working out their differences in their own sort of way.

AW has a agreement with the Zoners. Protection for equipment. AW is not Zoners, and we are not AW. Treat the relationship as it is, not as what you THINK it is.

I do not want to hear any more complaints sent to my people over this until you know what your talking about.

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(OOC: Kane, self-defense is allowed, and the first fight we ever had was when BSG shot me after I said I would open fire if he kept shooting the HF. He then turned and shot me when the HF and Helghast got too far away. Ask QV, he was right there. So technically attacked us first, meaning it was self defense. Meaning we were allowed to shoot them after that.

Also, people. I believe Igiss himself said Zoner ID was the only possible thing for AW to use. Oh wait, HE DID!

AW should have the Zoner ID. It was initially offered by me, as I find it the only possible solution (back then and now).

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[Kane]

(Minor point here, Dab 'ol pal; Phantoms have never, not once, attacked a Zoner base. In fact, we've launched attacks from Freeports before, and then fled to the pirate bases where retribution could not follow)

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[Koolmo]

(*Cough*, I have been shot by AW ships. Not you personally, but AW ships.)

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I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

[Dab]

(OOC: Errr Kane.. Forgot something here?)

While phantom death lured and distracted an AW battleship away form omicron theta I managed to get within 2.5 k from freeport 9 and launch a surprise torpedo strike.

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[Firebird]

Transmit ID: Admiral Firebird
Destination: Interested Parties

and only showed support for HF by escorting them through Bretonia as they had been attacked without warning or reason in that area before.

Before accusing others of having their facts wrong, consider your own...

HF first incident with the Atlas discussing PIRATE intentions

The HF were asked lawfully to leave the system after discussing piracy and refused, hence we opened fire in support of lawful actions. Following this incident HF vessels were declared hostile and ordered out of Cambridge. The AW then gave the HF assistance in attempts to defy our authority in our home system.

It is interesting to note that the main vessel responsible for most of the incidents against the SF is primarily the Denicalus, as well. Both recent and in the past.

The attacks on HF vessels passing through Cambridge came in response to their unlawful nature and actions. The HF were REPEATEDLY warned to stay out of Cambridge. The HF never once listened to such warnings and hence were fired upon, WITH warning and WITH provocation. The AW's response was to support an unlawful act as opposed to letting them deal with their own mess. If the HF had respected the lawful authority of the SF and remained outside of Cambridge we would not have needed to shoot them. If the AW respected our authority in Cambridge they would have not assisted the HF in their actions. To say that attacks on HF by the SF were unprovoked and unwarned is a complete a utter lie. Perhaps the AW might want to look at the HF as to why they would say they were not warned when they clearly were? But that is your affair.

Now to the Zoners, I do not believe the AW have acted to your best interests. The SF had substantial trade arrangements with the zoners in Omicron Theta prior to the AW's actions. We were assisting in the coverage of trade runs between Kurile, Omicron Theta, and Cambridge to which BOTH groups profitted tremendously. To be inciting that the SF held any ill will towards the Zoners is again an outright lie, making me wonder if this representive might happen to be paid heavily by an AW retainer. In any case, the AW's actions have greatly affected the SF's ability to conduct trade with Omicron Theta. And this issue will be discussed on another comm.

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[Ant]

Message to: Open transmission
Comm id: GC-555-2362

I am only one Zoner among many, however, my opinion would be that the AW should be more careful about their Zoner affiliation.

My impression would be that the original breach of Zoner neutrality was by AW, coming with the declaration of alliance with the Lane Hacker group, Hellfire Legion.
In supporting the illegal actions of the HF and other unlawful groups, the AW have directly breached Zoner neutrality.

I would suggest that if the AW intend to remain affiliated to the Zoners, all illegal alliances and active support of illegal activities should be ended permanently.

Alan Kell
Zoner trader

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[Malaclypse 666]

The Zoners are neutral to the Xenos (OOC: people, check the rep lists to see who is enemies with whom for god's sake) and will remain such. The Xenos offered to help us defeat the SA and SF in California. Why would the AW refuse such help from a party they are neutral with? The factions present had NAPs until the fight was completed. The SA and SF are greater enemies and less common enemies, so the pirates put their differences aside temporarily until this threat was defeated. The AW and HF then left as the pirates went about working out their differences in their own sort of way.

As a fellow and former Zoner, Luciaden, I can most certainly assure you that you do not speak for all of us.

The arrogance of you trying to do so is even mildy amusing.

Look around you.. In 49 you have neighbors who certainly don't need your protection. And we don't need you dragging us into bloody foreign adventures. I have seen numerous other traders and peaceful folk bearing Zoner ID and tag proudly. Tell me you speak for them.

Before you address anyone else in Sirius, you had better address the people you claim to serve.

Your place, or mine?

Reginald Waverly
Citizen of Gran Canaria
IND by Insurance, Zoner by Right

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[Dab]

OOC: Thanks for not reading Mal. As I said, according to the IN-GAME REP LIST, under the info for Xenos, stating; Everyone hostile except the Zoners and IMG. Thanks for paying attention, and it was only this that I spoke in regards to all other Zoners. Everything else, I am not speaking of all Zoners, but as Aurelia and the command staff of Freeport 9.

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[Malaclypse 666]

OOC: Thanks for not reading Mal. As I said, according to the IN-GAME REP LIST, under the info for Xenos, stating; Everyone hostile except the Zoners and IMG. Thanks for paying attention, and it was only this that I spoke in regards to all other Zoners. Everything else, I am not speaking of all Zoners, but as Aurelia and the command staff of Freeport 9.

Kaff! Hack! Oh really? well I must apologize. I goofed. This is the part I meant to quote.

You seem unable to accept the consequences of your actions, and now hope that we Zoners will abandon the same people who have protected us and our system, as well as the peace in this system, because you can't stand against them in this war?

Now that sure seems like putting words in my mouth to me.

Instead of pontificating from on high, why not come down to the level of the Zoners who work for a living. Maybe your contract should be reviewed by the whole of Zoner-uh-dom, as a whole?

Regards,
Reggie, and Mal, and Alan, and Scutter, and Buffles, and Kingpin, and Koolmo, and.....

Your Temporary Autonomous Zoners
Gran Canaria.

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Comm ID: Adm Adamson / LNS Valhalla
226th ADF-CA, Office of the Govenor

Alright, just so I'm clear. Why are you at war with the SA again? I don't remember starting a war with the AW or why they would take so much interest in "far off" California or take the time and effort to come all the way to the core systems just to attack military targets. What possible interest is California to the AW. If its just because your "allies" the HF are at war with us then ok. I don't see it but ok.:)You've said that you are not Zoners and thats fine. Far be it for me to gripe, moan, or complain about how y'all wanna run your faction. Personally I don't mind the excercise. That which does not kill you...ummm nevermind. And maybe I just haven't read deep enough in the intel to find out the reason we're at war. If so please enlighten me. Like I said I don't mind, lets shoot each other until our reactors blow up in our faces. Bottom line is this. Please stop the whining, the complaining, the calling "foul" on any and everyones RP. Don't quote rules either. Everyone on this server has read the rules (or should have). We all know the score. And if someone is being a ^*&^*@#%* about it just ignore them and report them. Simple, direct, done. That's what the admins are for. As to the Zoner question, Zoners or not, you have repeatedly demonstrated a blatant disregard for law order and that makes you terrorists. Myself and the rest of the SA will not just stand by and let you get away with it. If no war exists then I don't wanna see another AW ship in my system. You have declared war against us so don't pretend to be the injured party here. War, justified or not, exists and will continue until you stop military actions against Liberty and its people. I mean it, no AW ships within three systems of California.

Adm. Adamson / LNS Valhalla
226th ADF-CA, HQ Office of the Govenor

OOC: I will say that it's getting old when I log on to see 5 players drop what they're doing to log on to char orbiting LA just to blast the crap out of me. You've done that to me at least three times now. No justification other then "we're at war." To my credit I've never backed down from you and always have been a good sport about it.:)I'm not complaining, as I said above I don't mind the exercise. It only makes me better. And don't think I want peace. I'll see you all spaced before I give up and Liberty will always give me a new Battleship.:)I like you guys, and like you I just wish all the whinning would go away. Lets just have fun and kill space pirates. See you in space.

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