Mangarot, you're an idiot. Your points are worthless here. Just shut up, please? You're not helping. Your insulting is going to get you buried. And I almost hope it does.
Quit trying to be aggressive and abrasive. Go mind your own business and get out of my sanction. You'll be due for one soon enough, I think.
If you post in this sanction and are not directly involved or a leader of the accused person's faction be advised that you are consenting to be subjected to the reprisal of my choice which may involve in game repercussions up to a ban.
(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
Just so you know, offering a bribe is always the first thing that comes to my mind, being shouted at and ordered to pay money does not strike me as 'suggesting a bribe'. And such is not conducive to having fun (Skipper pretty much ragequitted after, and i was not far from doing the same). I am also not the sort of person to just PM the people involved afterwards, that strikes me as even more 'whiney'.
I am sorry that it came to this, but i had a really s*** day in regards to disco, and this was only the beginning of it.
' Wrote:If you post in this sanction and are not directly involved or a leader of the accused person's faction be advised that you are consenting to be subjected to the reprisal of my choice which may involve in game repercussions up to a ban.
Please do.
' Wrote:Just so you know, offering a bribe is always the first thing that comes to my mind, being shouted at and ordered to pay money does not strike me as 'suggesting a bribe'. And such is not conducive to having fun (Skipper pretty much ragequitted after, and i was not far from doing the same). I am also not the sort of person to just PM the people involved afterwards, that strikes me as even more 'whiney'.
I am sorry that it came to this, but i had a really s*** day in regards to disco, and this was only the beginning of it.
Well, talking to us like civil people would be fine. IF you go and say, "YOU JERK, I REPORT U." We're going to ignore you. Just say something like, "Hey, can I talk about what just happened?"
And if your friend ragequit because he was taken for five million credits by a pair of Mercenaries... I'd say he needs to relax, rethink things, and remember this is just a game.
' Wrote:Please do.
Well, talking to us like civil people would be fine. IF you go and say, "YOU JERK, I REPORT U." We're going to ignore you. Just say something like, "Hey, can I talk about what just happened?"
And if your friend ragequit because he was taken for five million credits by a pair of Mercenaries... I'd say he needs to relax, rethink things, and remember this is just a game.
Im sorry, ive just been on the reciving end of far far too many PMs after pirating someone to ever want to do it myself.
Also, i feel the main point here is not whether or not you took a bribe, it is the way you worded the 'request', more specifically that you uttered it in the first place, i was going to offer a bribe before you decided to order me to offer one, and being ordered to pay a bribe or be killed sounds very much like a case of "10 mil r dai" to me, something which i absolutely deteste.
As i said earlier, i would rather have died and lost all the ore than met what was in essence another "10 mil r dai" piracy attempt.
As far as i am concerned, a bribe is something the victim should offer, not something he should have demanded from him.
' Wrote:As i said earlier, i would rather have died and lost all the ore than met what was in essence another "10 mil r dai" piracy attempt.
The fact that you quantified what is literally 7 screenshots of correspondence into 10 mil r dye is, I think, the most accurate representation of the selfish "I must win" sentiments displayed by most persons that I have ever seen.
Oh those two? Just another pair of lolwuts. How do I figure? They asked something of me which I wasn't prepared to willingly give.
' Wrote:The fact that you quantified what is literally 7 screenshots of correspondence into 10 mil r dye is, I think, the most accurate representation of the selfish "I must win" sentiments displayed by most persons that I have ever seen.
Oh those two? Just another pair of lolwuts. How do I figure? They asked something of me which I wasn't prepared to willingly give.
Remarkable.
That is not correct, i was willing to give the money, i just do not want to have it demanded from me, there are plenty of RP-impaired Corsairs and indy pirates to do that already.
And i do not think you are lolwuts, in fact i have the highest respect for all the members of the administrating staff, past and present.
Its just in my opinion a bribe is something to be taken, not demanded, demanding a bribe is baisically piracy.
And i am not trying to be selfish, in fact i would rather you had just blown my ship up and this had never happened.
Edit: And to the people PMing me, really, i could not care less what you think on this matter, it does not involve you in any way.
We've reviewed this sanction. The debate was interesting and intense. The conclusion is:
- This was piracy.
- Piracy is not permitted by this ID.
- This was good role play and we want to encourage this.
- This was an unnecessary violation report and we want to discourage this.
Actions:
- We are reducing the penalty for this to time served.
- We are going to change the merc ID to allow this situation.
- We are going to take an increasingly dim view of unnecessary violation reports.
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