Valkyre is pointless

[Ursus]

Rheinland Valkyre HF (or "Valkyrie" as it is often mis-spelled here) is a good platform for anti-bomber duties, but cannot fulfill its role with its current equipment limits. For starters, it should have mostly class-9 turrets, but instead it has class 7 and 8 turrets, which is not enough firepower for taking down bombers. Also it has less than half the bats and bots of the Wraith. I ass-u-me it has similar handling to the Wraith since it is the same model, but I did not bother to test it given the above limits. It is utterly pointless except as a stepping stone to a Wraith.

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[kikatsu]

It is not meant to be a practically used ship, it is just a vanilla left over like the Defender, except unlike the Defender, she had slightly respectable stats by Disco standards.

Yes Rheinland should have a HF, but not in the form of the Valkyre...it should have a different model to make a better distinction.

[Taneru]

Valkyrie is the Mk1, Vanilla version of the Wraith.
For all intens and purposes, the Wraith IS the Valkyries brought up to the level of the Vanilla Sabre, Eagle, Hammerhead, and Titan, as with the rest of the Mk2 ships.

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Characters
Alan Markson: The Hellfire Legion's Lord Commander
The Perihelion: Freeport Four's guardian, and yet much more. Missing and assumed Lost with all hands.
Eric Dresmund: Junker, smuggler, thief. Last seen drunk on Beaumont
Vayrn Wyard: IMG Recon pilot turned Neo-Terran Captain. Last location unknown

[Ursus]

New model means time waiting for it, stats can be tweaked so it is similar to Executioner instead of Defender and it will be good enough

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Discovery 24/7 Negotiating Tactics:

[kikatsu]

Thinking about it... if we gave Rheinland a new fighter, would we give it a HF or another VHF?

The Wraith is already very very agile, and she lacks the normal forward firepower of most VHFs... but her powerplant makes up for it. Basically we have a fast and agile VHF that has a good powerplant but a slight firepower lack... Would Rheinland benefit from a larger fighter with more forward guns and less maneuverability...something that could be more like the Avenger.

[Taneru]

The Wraith is a heavy fighter in all but name.

Where exactly would this new heavy fighter you are suggesting fit between the heavy-for-a-light-fighter Banshee/Phantom, and the light-for-a-very-heavy-fighter Valkyrie/Wraith?

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Characters
Alan Markson: The Hellfire Legion's Lord Commander
The Perihelion: Freeport Four's guardian, and yet much more. Missing and assumed Lost with all hands.
Eric Dresmund: Junker, smuggler, thief. Last seen drunk on Beaumont
Vayrn Wyard: IMG Recon pilot turned Neo-Terran Captain. Last location unknown

[Junes]

The Valkyre is an old relict of vanilla, ye... However I do agree there should be a proper Rheinland HF. Completely other model tho as, stated above.

[Ursus]

I'm not that familiar with Rheinland fighters so I don't feel qualified to discuss the whole line. But I see your point and agree with it a bit. The turret placement on Wraith is really limited. A super-heavy fighter with another forward turret a little more bots could be a nice ship. It would need to be more cumbersome though.

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Discovery 24/7 Negotiating Tactics:

[Ursus]

The Wraith is a heavy fighter in all but name.

Except it has class-10 turrets, 30% more hull, 30% more bats and bots, and 30% more powerplant than other HFs.

I have not compared handling yet, I assume it's good based on the reports

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[Korny]

Model can stay the same for all I care. Just stat wise it could be brought up to HF standards (Disco style)

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