' Wrote:Well,corsairs also have their own biodomes now,
and about caps, well i have cap ship,but i still think that caps are useless... For example mns raids in gamma,last time it was like 6 bs, 2 dessies and gb.and they got owned by 6 bombers.
And you can give them guns how much you like, but if will heavy caps stay so big and slow targets that you can hit them with sn from 1k, then they will still stay easy targets for small and fast ships
I know they are usless but they can still make RP sense but if they don't even make RP sense why even have them D:
anyway my personal mod pawns with caps.
20k range turrets.
pretty disperse.
flak cannons.
better ship movement.
:D
anyway.
my point is why have ships that don't make RP sense.
I BELIEVE capital ships in this mod are fail, since they are spammed all over the place, and generally don't really contribute to the well-being of the server (save for the few individuals that can actually use / roleplay one.
Actually 100% of this Game doesn't make Sense. So why care, I've learned it, they'll just tell you that you're whining, though you are raising one valuable Point after another.
"Who is it doing this synthetic type of alpha beta psychedelic funkin'?"
Then people devs, balance dudes, people who make stories should also make stories that don't make sense?
right?...
getting some sense into a RP game never hurts.
Because then you are able to RP like it could be real as it should be and it's told to be.
But saying that it went like that and do that isn't going to work.
Order is not so small as you think, Toledo has population around 17 milions according to it's infocard.
4 Stations in Omicron 100. Evora is purely shipyard station Recon cruisers, ossies gebs, Lisbon produces only gunboats, Apophis bombers.
Planet Braga in Omicron 100 also should have been populated, Order started terraforming process, but core started to heat up, and global warming couldn't be controled. Mora station was build, as lot's of materials left after abandoning Braga. Ideal place for experiments and new engineering tests.
So, Order wasn't and still isn't so poor as you think.
Order has anonymous donators and supporters all over the Sirius. Zoners are supporting us aswell a lot.
And Nomads can't exactly shot down every transport going to Order, cause they are obviously always escorted.
We do have NPC patrols in Delta.
Also, current Osiris model abandons the cloaking technology in favor of increased armour and bigger engines. So not all versions are with expensive high tech like the original ones, although inRP Order does equip some of them with that tech.
With 2 owning systems, 5 bases plus one populated planet, Order is nothing what it was like in Vanilla.
I do agree Order caps are spamed to much, but nothing we can do about it.
InRP reasons for Order caps:
Our 2 main enemies have them, many bomber wings are needed to confront enemy capitals which are not always avaliable, many times bomber squadron is not as fast and effective as battleship.
About mako, yes it's a crappy battleship, has crappy strafing, although it packs 2 more guns then Osiris.
But it's not that big, it's not almost twice the size of osiris as you said, it's actually shorter then ossie, just a bit bulkier, his hitbox is a problem, it's basicly brick, while ossie one is vanilla made, and it's very tight and smooth. Ossie has awesome front profile for dodging, and good strafe.
I fly both of them, so I think I can give some evaluation about the difference between them.
Having the cash for capital ships does not mean you have the resources, the logistics, the necessary crews, and all the other things involved with designing highly complicated and massive capital ships. Aside from the house governments, anyone having anything bigger than a gunboat is ridiculous. It's a side-effect from Disco being a ship pack in its original form.
I know taking examples from RL is taboo but look at the development of the JSF. Skyrocketing costs, delays, and this even with the co-operation of multiple countries with long histories of engineering expertise and enough cash to "buy" their problems away.
' Wrote:Order is not so small as you think, Toledo has population around 17 milions according to it's infocard.
4 Stations in Omicron 100. Evora is purely shipyard station Recon cruisers, ossies gebs, Lisbon produces only gunboats, Apophis bombers.
Planet Braga in Omicron 100 also should have been populated, Order started terraforming process, but core started to heat up, and global warming couldn't be controled. Mora station was build, as lot's of materials left after abandoning Braga. Ideal place for experiments and new engineering tests.
So, Order wasn't and still isn't so poor as you think.
Order has anonymous donators and supporters all over the Sirius. Zoners are supporting us aswell a lot.
And Nomads can't exactly shot down every transport going to Order, cause they are obviously always escorted.
We do have NPC patrols in Delta.
Also, current Osiris model abandons the cloaking technology in favor of increased armour and bigger engines. So not all versions are with expensive high tech like the original ones, although inRP Order does equip some of them with that tech.
With 2 owning systems, 5 bases plus one populated planet, Order is nothing what it was like in Vanilla.
I do agree Order caps are spamed to much, but nothing we can do about it.
InRP reasons for Order caps:
Our 2 main enemies have them, many bomber wings are needed to confront enemy capitals which are not always avaliable, many times bomber squadron is not as fast and effective as battleship.
About mako, yes it's a crappy battleship, has crappy strafing, although it packs 2 more guns then Osiris.
But it's not that big, it's not almost twice the size of osiris as you said, it's actually shorter then ossie, just a bit bulkier, his hitbox is a problem, it's basicly brick, while ossie one is vanilla made, and it's very tight and smooth. Ossie has awesome front profile for dodging, and good strafe.
I fly both of them, so I think I can give some evaluation about the difference between them.
@Tommeh
where did all those millions come from?
Where did all the resources come from?
Zoners couldn't live in Delta without order protection
Order can't build ships without the zoners
Zoners need caps for protections
Order can't build caps without resources.
you see.
it makes no sense the order has one of the best logistic powers out of just some people who left their job and rolled in the order, like Trent Juni and King.
Also how can a base where you land hold millions of people?
Also how can they get enough food while the trade convoys are under constant attacks?
And you clearly have never been 50ms away from a ossie with your mako
Mako is twice as high and the same length.
Really the orders were supposed to be proper fighters pilots in adv. fighters.
All they fly in game is caps which they build with nothing and a lag in personnel.
And armor is the outside.
not the inside.
And cloak tech is more valuable then armor and power.
although harder to build.
But they can't build stuff anyway thats large
so they don't have to.
and how can a bunsh of pilots populate a planet and grow to millions?
The whole order got way to scaled up if you ask me.
even if it was for game fun purpose.