I think there has been a lot of misunderstanding concerning us.
For example our PvP: It was not our goal to have that much of it. It was not our goal to have fair fights.
Why should we care about the fun of those who we know were metagaming us and attacking us 10 on 1 if they would have the chance?
We had a lot of good RP with mostly independent players, but unfortunately not with many other factions.
For most of us this RP was a complete new experience, we never had done something like that before. It was fun but i am sure we did a lot of things "wrong". It is not like we do not take advice but if it is hidden in insults and trolls or if it contains to completely forget about the own RP idea it is a bit hard to follow.
We did a lot of thinking about our own zoners RP and had some funny ideas like the planned "crusade" of us. I would have loved to see that. I am sure it would have been something new and funny to more than just ORI players.
But all that doesn't matter much now. I think many people are happy that we leave and maybe they can enjoy their own superior RP now without getting disturbed by some new players with big ships who dare not to bow down to the greatness of the older players.
Some of us will stay, so don't be too relieved yet.
I hope other new and smaller factions are not discouraged by our disband. Just look at it as an example of what you should try to avoid.
It was a lot of laughing and meeting interesting people the last few weeks and even if the end feels wrong somehow i do not regret any time spent here.
Since ORI is no longer a faction,i reckon nobody has to complain about us anymore.We are gone,as ORI,and will most probably never return.I personally have already got over it.
I respectfully demand that our vessels be released from Bastille,relocated wherever the Admins see it fit,so that we may save at least some of the cash invested.
' Wrote:I think there has been a lot of misunderstanding concerning us.
For example our PvP: It was not our goal to have that much of it. It was not our goal to have fair fights.
Why should we care about the fun of those who we know were metagaming us and attacking us 10 on 1 if they would have the chance?
Ah, the truth comes forth. You don't care about fair play nor anyone else's fun but your own. The reason it was 10 v 1, which I honestly doubt ever happened, against you was your pure use of cap ships. It takes a handful of bomber pilots to take down a Jinkusu, and considering you were usually in pairs of Jinkusu, it took two handfuls to deal with you.
The rest of your post is just full of whine and trying to pin the blame squarely on everyone else and avoid any responsibility for your own mistakes. Even after we've explained your mistakes you still refuse to acknowledge them. Did everyone involve make mistakes? Yes, we are all human. Difference is we acknowledged our mistakes and learned from them.
If you want to create a faction where you get to build the role play/lore from the ground up, go use the generic IDs. If you pick up a faction ID, you are required to adhere to the established role play of said faction.
I've said my peace so I'm done here. I offered my help from the time you were the IBS and the ZG3E, but there is no point in helping someone who refuses to acknowledge they need it.
Daedric...fairplay in war?
You need to decide between RP or pure PvP.
Its ok if you say on a pvp server not 2 on 1 or no big ship vs small ship.
But in RP way the interest of a faction should lie in the survival of the own people and the death of the opponents.
An not that the enemy has a fair chance.
So the truth comes forth..ya...you have no idea how to RP pvp :lol:
ORI was faction number 4 now and it was much better than the other 3 i d say...so be ready for the next step :crazy:
Quote:But in RP way the interest of a faction should lie in the survival of the own people and the death of the opponents.An not that the enemy has a fair chance.
I totally second that.You see,i heard this "dont engage him,it's overkill" thing so much that it gives me a headache.Tell you what,Omicroner.
1.A couple of day ago the BHG crushed me in Kappa in a Fearless,with multiple bombers and dessies.They didn't prove "fair",so why should i ?
2.About a month ago i get ganked in Minor by a LN fleet of bombers.There were so many,i thought the entire asteroid field was red.I died in less than 5 minutes,and i didn't complain a thing.It was ok.
3.Some 2 weeks ago,as i was strolling in Delta with my ossie,i got a distress signal from Order Agents being attacked by RM-MND ships.We were multiple caps,a couple of gebs/resephs and some fighters against a handfull of RM ships.Their skill,as far as i reckon,was most impressive,so i personally didn't think for a second about overkill.In fact,i was pretty useless at that moment right there!
You see,i don't really fancy this "be fair" thing.If i play as a Hunter Mako,and see an Order hunter or 2,it's not because of the overkill that i dont engage.In fact,with a proper loadout,i doubt i would kill any of them.It's because it's pathetic to fly a capship around for some flies,imho.
What does "be fair" have to do here,i cannot understand.Are you trying to say that if all this was real,as in real life,a hunter pilot would back off and say "no,i ain't going to shoot,because the enemy is weaker than i am" ?
This assertion is rubbish.In the greatest RP situations you will NEVER see such a thing (or you shouldn't) because those situations are a pure reflection of a real-life scenario.And in a real-life scenario,you dont see such things at all.There is no mercy,no fair-play.It's not a soccer game,it's combat!
I have lost fun at RP while some factions thought they have to pewpew and not give us a chance.
I hope there are better RP-communities out there than this one, because you gentlemen are so much narrow-minded concerning your RP that its no fun t all playing here as a newbie.
I sincerely regret that you leave ORI, but also it is in your character, take the easy way. The truth is that your ORI RP was good but you never try to adapt to FL and much less to Zoner ID.
I should also apologize for my share of blame, but if you surrender so easily, then you deserve this much earlier.
The issue is not that everyone else does it better: TAZ is a religious order; OSI a commercial company, and we, the paranoic of the border. You had and have a space for you, sure, but if you changed some of your RP.
The fault mainly lies with you. You do not blame the outside, without looking at your house first.
Lou.
All i said was "How about trolling with the name Adolf.H". In an oorp-spamchat. Whilst the topic was Rudolph.Hitler. Calm down, and never ever call us half grown, becuse you have no reason for this.
The reason why the ORI will disappear are:
The talkings on XV
The FR5 of the BHG
The OORP attack of the BHG
The OORP attack of the SCRA
The OORP attack of the Order
The OORP attack of the 'sairs
The OORP attack of the RHA
The whining about us calling 11 "Oriport"
The whining about us flying Jinkusus
The whining about us doing RP that was a bit different from usual RP.
Don't be so conservative.
As I've said before:
Close this thread. This leads to nothing
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The ORI were great, the ORI are great.
The ORI will never die! You will always remember us!
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