BHG's Strategy Concerning Gallia

[Knjaz]

- dabadoru is but a depot, not a fully fletched station - capital ships are their home in the edgeworlds

By the way, this. I know it's a bit offtopic, but why then BH Mako looks the way it is? Because, by it's shape, size (very small internal volume), turret layout and turret firing angles it's pure BS-class assault platform, not meant for the role of "mothership" at all. It doesn't even have a dock for small craft, afaik.
Somethng similiar to a concept of "heavy" class warships would fit there much more (LiCarrier, Jinkusu-like), or, if there's a need to keep them only in "Light' class, smth. like Aquillon...

[Dashiell]

right.

First off, what Jinx said. The Core has no business butting in with House wars. They never picked a side. Nor will they in this (upcoming) conflict as the Core doesnt't really give a rat's bottom about West Sirius. It's the Edge worlds and to some extent the Omegas where the Core has its interests. If Valors show up in Delta (wtf?) the Core will get involved. But they won't fly across Sirius to get mixed in a conflict that has very little merit for them.

Secondly, mako vs Valor is pointless. As a mako is so damn fat and crappy a valor will tear it apart with only half of its turrets active. So even if lolmako indies wanna pew Valors, they'll soon be shown the error of their ways in more ways than 1.

thirdly, about Dabadoru. I've put requests in to make Dabadoru a large frontline base in 4.86. The starting sitiuation of the Core in delta was as Jinxy described it. daba is a small depot and the makos were more or less the mobile home campers of the Core. But as time progressed, more stuff and materials have been shipped to delta to improve and enlarge Dabadoru. we even did events ingame to refelct this with Bowex) and DHC.

So I hope my request has been heard and acted upon. so that in 4.86 Daba is 'complete' and has become a frontline fortress in stead of a depot. (BHG guard / Core base if all goes well) because seriously, when you re at the front lines of a war you'll make an effort to create a safe haven. not muck about in battleships as your home. Homes which are being blown to hell on a daily basis.

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[Shagohad]

I think we've solved the problem Forward Gun / Cannon:D

Not when you're in a ship that looks like the Massive from Invader Zim. And the Valor will have 22 turrets to follow through.

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"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THE SCIENCE IS LEAKING OUT!"

[Daedric]

I think we've solved the problem Forward Gun / Cannon:D

Not really, you can use those keys to try to dodge any type of weapon. Doesn't mean it is going to work.

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[Shagohad]

I think it's more about whether Gallia will try and butt the BHG out of criminal hunting. Kinda' like what Kusari did. It's more or less what the Evil Gallic Overlords decide on the matter. It's whether or not they(we) want the Bounty Hunters in the loop. Or the devs. *Shrugs*

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"THE HULL HAS BEEN BREACHED AND THE SCIENCE IS LEAKING OUT!"

[Daedric]

I'm of the mindset that the Hunters shouldn't be hunting the GRN even if there is a bounty on them. You know, the Hunters being lawful. Kusari has nearly the same stance on the Hunters as Gallia does and I don't see the Hunters shooting KNF down.

I do remember, Agmen (or another Hunter leader), saying they try to stay out of the wars between houses. When did that change? I mean, if you try to tell me it did when the King of Gallia spit on your offer, I'll point you to the Emperor of Kusari doing the same thing and you haven't gotten involved in the Kusari-Bretonia war. Though, you don't have any bases in Gallia like you have one in Kusari.

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[Stoat]

The question with regards to Gallia is their intentions towards the rest of Sirius. If they want to wipe out all military forces, Bretonia, Liberty, Kusari and Rheinland, then I think it unlikely the BHG would sit idly by while Gallia steamrollered their primary employers. Gallia is extremely xenophobic, from what I've read, and would not have anything to do with the Hunters of Sirius. That reason alone would be enough to force the BHG to take sides.

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[NonSequitor]

The question with regards to Gallia is their intentions towards the rest of Sirius. If they want to wipe out all military forces, Bretonia, Liberty, Kusari and Rheinland, then I think it unlikely the BHG would sit idly by while Gallia steamriollered their primary employers. Gallia is extremely xenophobic, from what I've read, and would not have anything to do with the Hunters of Sirius. That reason alone would be enough to force the BHG to take sides.

This is my suspicion as well.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

I'm of the mindset that the Hunters shouldn't be hunting the GRN even if there is a bounty on them. You know, the Hunters being lawful. Kusari has nearly the same stance on the Hunters as Gallia does and I don't see the Hunters shooting KNF down.

Actually, we did do that for a while. You weren't around then. We would support the Bretonians when the Kusari would come a-raiding, and we'd go after some Kusari shipping in Bretonia.

There was even a VERY nice little shooting match around Deshima about that, because our relations with Kusari were 'kill 'em and get paid to do it'.

THEN things settled down, and we decided that it was in the best interests of everyone to just simply glare at the Kusari, and finally we've actually started working FOR them. We now have a working relationship with the police forces of Bretonia, Liberty, Kusari, and Rhienland.

The question with regards to Gallia is their intentions towards the rest of Sirius. If they want to wipe out all military forces, Bretonia, Liberty, Kusari and Rheinland, then I think it unlikely the BHG would sit idly by while Gallia steamrollered their primary employers. Gallia is extremely xenophobic, from what I've read, and would not have anything to do with the Hunters of Sirius. That reason alone would be enough to force the BHG to take sides.

Which is something I RP'd with them, and why we did some exploration stuff over there for a bit.

I'll rephrase something that I said above. The Bounty Hunters Guild has a positive (meaing we get paid) working relationship with the police forces in Bretonia, Kusari, Liberty, and Rhienland. That is one reason we are not involved now in their inter-house warfare.

Gallia has told the Bounty Hunters Guild to go screw themselves, they (Gallia) are not interested in working with us, and they have no desire to ever do so in a positive manner. So you've the person who pays your paycheck (even if you're an independant contractor) is being assaulted by some thugs and then says, Hey, Hunter, I'll pay you some money if you deal with these people that don't like you in the first place.

Does that mean that the Guild can stand up to military units in a big way? No - but it does mean that you have the potential so see some REALLY oddball combinations of ships working together. Think about it a second - given where the combat is going to happen, you could have Outcasts working WITH Kusari Navy working WITH QCP ships working WITH Guild ships - all fighting AGAINST Gallia.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Dashiell]

Basically what Stoaty and Agmen said.

The Core won't get involved. Like I said.
The bhg may get involved. it depends on Gallia's actions. 'lawful' is kinda multi interpretable here.

The GRN may be lawful in its own eyes, but when they barge into Sirius going:

engaging all evil Sirians without warning!

They seem mightly unlawful to Sirius based factions. So yeah, we'll have to see what happens.

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