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[ProwlerPC]

There really shouldn't be anything wrong with Police factions using VHFs, Bombers and GBs on top of the LFs. Any Police organization worth it's salt maintains at least one unit equipped with heavy hardware.

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[Jeremy Hunter]

You are comparing real life with a game.

Also, I was simply providing a counter-statement to your own statement. In the modern world, that is called a debate or discussion.

I was,responding to Uzed.

And after your trolling, insulting, and rudeness how,would I know your not trolling, insulting, or being outright rude?

Learn from the past.

Stop trolling.

Then I will nelieve you are just countering me like a debate.

And yes, this is not real life.

I think SWAT should use military shtuff, regular not. GB restricted to high-ranking SWAT.

I am refering to the LPI because idk BPA, KNF, or RFP ranks and stuff.

/2cents

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[Cond0r]

But you already said that Gunboats should be open use, why are you contradicting yourself now. And with the posts before this one, that would make more than 2cents:happy:

Police factions shouldnt be limited by ships. There is no reason why they shouldnt be using very heavy fighters, especially with what pirates have these days. Besides, its green cell.

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[17:23:05] Mini Me: pls
[17:23:06] Mini Me: gtfo

[mjolnir]

Idea was that all police factions get own "heavy" ship to help with taking down transports:

Grizzly for LPI
Mjolnir for RM
Kusari Explorer for KSP

BAF can use Paladin even though it's not primarily meant for them, should probably get something extra, they used to use Havoc MKII civilian bombers

That said there's nothing keeping them from using VHFs either.

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

[Jeremy Hunter]

But you already said that Gunboats should be open use, why are you contradicting yourself now. And with the posts before this one, that would make more than 2cents:happy:

Police factions shouldnt be limited by ships. There is no reason why they shouldnt be using very heavy fighters, especially with what pirates have these days. Besides, its green cell.

Oops, bad wording. My bad.

What I mean is that they should be allowed free GB use after they reach a certain SWAT rank.

When you think LPI, you go Libbys. You think,SWAT, you think of heavier stuff.

SWAT also fields heavy vehicles, so GBs for those who attain a certain rank.

LPI-SWAT has permission to use them.

Thats what I mean.

/4cents

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[Zweibrucken]

Idea was that all police factions get own "heavy" ship to help with taking down transports:

Grizzly for LPI
Mjolnir for RM
Kusari Explorer for KSP

BAF can use Paladin even though it's not primarily meant for them, should probably get something extra, they used to use Havoc MKII civilian bombers

That said there's nothing keeping them from using VHFs either.

good idea:)

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[Hielor]

LFs are useless in the current state of Disco.

Police have two primary jobs:
1. Interdicting freighters/transports carrying contraband
2. Taking care of ne'er-do-wells.
2a. Pirates in VHFs
2b. Pirates in Bombers
2c. Pirates in freighters/transports
2d. Pirates in gunboats

Of these, LFs can only really do well in 2b, where their maneueverability gives them an edge. In the other situations, a police in an LF will get either smoked or ignored.

VHFs, on the other hand, can handle all of the above with the exception of 2d.

A police officer flying an LF is like a bicycle cop in a world where everyone is driving tanks or semi trucks.

On my (indie) LPI I fly an Eagle, which are sold in Illinois--obviously they're intended for LPI to use them.

A couple days ago, I take off from Manhattan and here's an official faction LPI chasing down a smuggler freighter in his Libby...and not even getting through the shields. So I hop in and help take him out, and the fight's over pretty quick.

This LPI official faction...person...then proceeds to tell me that I'm not allowed to use the Eagle because it's reserved for SWAT members only. Uh...yeah, only if you're in the official faction, where they want their members to be flying around in worthless little LFs for some reason. This is why I will never join the LPI official faction as long as they're artificially limiting their members to worthless ships.

The situation might be different come 4.86, when LFs will have a speed advantage, but what then? Congratulations, you've caught up with your quarry, but now you can't do anything to him.

Also:

I mean now LPI can do same as LN except fight Rheinland. But they have TLAGNET for their use.

Yeah, that's kind of the point. LPI are supposed to be better than LN at policing the core house systems.

[Error]

This LPI official faction...person...then proceeds to tell me that I'm not allowed to use the Eagle because it's reserved for SWAT members only. Uh...yeah, only if you're in the official faction, where they want their members to be flying around in worthless little LFs for some reason. This is why I will never join the LPI official faction as long as they're artificially limiting their members to worthless ships.

The Eagle isn't restricted to "SWAT members only" (you'll get into SWAT within a few hours of gameplay
anyways). I'm sure there just was a small misunderstanding there - If you absolutely for some reason would
want to use the Eagle, you can from Sergeant and up. Or if you ask nicely.

And don't underestimate LFs. Really, the thing about the LPI is that we usually won't patrol alone - that's our
intention at least - and that is one of the main advantages of and reasons why we use LFs. They're great in
packs of two or more. I don't think you've ever seen a Libby swarm in action before.

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[Hielor]

The Eagle isn't restricted to "SWAT members only" (you'll get into SWAT within a few hours of gameplay
anyways). I'm sure there just was a small misunderstanding there - If you absolutely for some reason would
want to use the Eagle, you can from Sergeant and up. Or if you ask nicely.

And don't underestimate LFs. Really, the thing about the LPI is that we usually won't patrol alone - that's our
intention at least - and that is one of the main advantages of and reasons why we use LFs. They're great in
packs of two or more. I don't think you've ever seen a Libby swarm in action before.

So the plan is to win only by superior numbers, when instead you could win just by virtue of having equal technology?

That makes sense.

[Error]

Yes. Yes, it does. It works and has worked for 4+ years. LFs aren't for
everybody, VHFs aren't for everybody. The LPI and most other police
factions are and have always been a LF-heavy factions. If that's not your
thing, spend a little more time ingame, rank up and buy whatever you want,
or try the Military/Navy factions. Or stay indie, like you already are -
whatever floats your boat.

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