' Wrote:Before we are trying to find out who is closest to vanilla I would like to cite NPC "S.Ralston" in Freeport 9.
"Our brothers in Freeport 5 send us [...]. It's a Zoners duty to help other Zoners where we can; [...] only by sticking together can we make it."
OSI made themselves a name by abandoning their brethren in the Omicrons, so I seriously doubt OSI could ever be the Zoners claiming to be close to vanilla.
But I do not think it will serve this discussion if we are starting to point out what vanilla is and how far we each of the Zoner Factions is away from it.
If we assume that neither the TAZ, nor the Omicroners are willing to accept this ID split while OSI perhaps being interested to achieve a separation it might prove to be benefitial to find an ID for OSI that is matching their role play as closest as possible.
That is your opinion of what happened. We don't feel we abandoned anyone, as you don't see us as Zoners, we don't feel you are acting like Zoners. Thus, we didn't abandon our brethren.
While you are of the opinion we don't represent Zoners at all, I think its clear most of the community feels we do. I mean, you remember that thread Jinx made about a comment made by a certain some body? I remember you and Jinx coming on Skype and asking for TAZ and OSI's advice on fixing the issues the community has with the Omicroners. Tristian, Ghies, Doc, and I all gave your honest opinion, all of which were ignored.
You can also quit trying to get us to give up the Zoner ID because you don't think we are Zoners. The Zoner ID fits our role play as much as it fits your role play; regardless of your opinion.
What Gheis is trying to do with this proposal is resolve the issues between the factions by taking the two current Zoner IDs (Zoner and Zoner Guard) and re-tool them in a way that would develop Zoner RP and also clearly show that there are different ideas on what a Zoner is. You yourself heavily supported the idea in Skype, only changing your personal opinion when other Omicroners started to disagree with you. Not to mention Jinx also agreed, but said he doubted the development team would allow it. Funny how you say one thing to us on Skype, then say another on the forums.
TAZ didn't like the idea, and I understand why. The idea is more of a split between OSI and the Omicroners, but that is why Gheis asked for input from them so the proposal could be modified. Is this the fix that is needed? Who knows, but as Doc said, it is a step in the direction needed.
So, Lou, instead of feeling the need to point out how you disagree with another person's opinion because he doesn't agree with you. How about we find a solution to the problem that exists.
Another benefit of an ID split is one that benefits the admins. Faction Right usage. Diplomacy. Right now, the three Zoner factions have varied diplomacy that prevent FR5. The Corsair fiasco at 9 is a perfect example and the SCRA that were also there.
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