' Wrote:I do know, but I seriously thought there was no infighting with the proposal, so it caught me off guard.
It wasn't centered around the proposal specifically, but I have the strong feeling that the events that transpired in other places around the forum did affect the progress we were making. I'm just as much to blame for that as anyone else.
' Wrote:Either way, I do not support the ID change. The Zoner and Zoner Guard ID should remain as is.
Having said that, I would fully support OSI-'s application for another ID. I am not saying you should become Freelancers or whatever else is being said, I am talking about a custom OSI- ID. (For which you define your own RP parameters with the developers and the Administrators.)
An OSI ID has been discussed among the OSI HC and I believe it's been presented to the Administration for review on one or two occasions, but denied each time. It was because of that denial that I attempted a more RP-centric approach to splitting things within the Zoners, although as I said in my last post, between the feedback received from the Zoner Leadership and the community here, it appears that splitting the Zoner ID itself is going to be too heavy-handed in any case. I think the last OSI ID proposal was made about a year, ago, though, and as a faction we've matured significantly since then (I think), so perhaps it'd be a more viable option this time.
' Wrote:My only concern, or caution with this would be asking you not to use capital ships. Fearless and Juggernaut specifically, because the Conference makes RP sense as an escorting ship and the Corvo is quite open. I do see your role-play as more corporation-based, so I would not see the need for you to use this. (I believe I talked with someone who said you have no Fearlesses or Juggernauts anyway, so I do not think you mind. Please clarify if this is the case.)
You're spot on there. The heaviest attack ship OSI uses is the Conference, and that in itself is both limited by our faction creation post and the lack of need for heavier ships. We rarely fly the gunboats we have as it is, but they do come in handy from time to time. I know a couple of us have our own Zoner capitals, but those are unaffiliated with the faction.
' Wrote:Also, my apologies if this has been brought up before. I only read Gheis's response and responded because I was not interested in the flood of certain posts that I am sure I will find if I go through all the pages.
The closest that was touched on - in this thread anyhow - was separate IDs for each of the three factions. Buried in between grudge-bearing from both sides over the Corsair nonsense.
Really, my goal with whatever ID proposal we came up with was to be fair for each faction. I think ideally, OSI would prefer to have our own separate OSI ID, but given that the prospect was turned down on multiple occasions, I was attempting to venture out into alternate directions with this proposal.
Just another step on the path.
To everyone else, I really don't want to have to request this thread be closed, but we need to stop this negative back-and-forth (Bindo) on the merits of events that are long past (Bindo) and stop egging on the other side (Bindo). I think you've (Bindo) made your point (Bindo) and further arguing it isn't going to resolve anything (Bindo).