Re-Working

[Veygaar]

This thread's title says " Rorry's Renegades Feedback, Tell us what you think." so here are my thoughts:

Your lack of respect for the community is outrageous and the methods you use in order to get a blue text are beyond anything I imagined.

I had a lot of respect for Rorry when he was friendly to the 'sairs. His RP, his pirating skills, his character. All that has dissipated yesterday, in Gamma, when I had somewhere between 8 and 10 gunboats shooting at my lonely bomber. I repeat, lonely bomber. That means I was alone. I'll leave out the OC dread that was feeding you in the following fight because everybody refills and I am no hypocrite. Yes, you were outnumbered towards the end but that's just karma. Still, that might sound like Q_Q so lets move on.

The use of Gallic ships and guns in Gamma is way out of line for a group that claims not to be just another lolwut group having a go at Disco. I still fail to see why you are not in Bastille yet since we have this text in admin green: "3) Generic ID's with Gallic tech have been changed from "Must remain in Gallia" to "Must follow the same ZOI rules as Gallic Factions" You use generic ID's and Gallic tech, right? What the hell are you doing in the Omegas and Omnicrons?

Next, the Council withdrawing your tech permissions. You once again act like some lolwut group that only cares about the blue texts your fancy space boats bring you. Those people even asked for a tech chart change that was clearly aimed and your group (since they have now canceled that request) and this is how you treat them? That proves yet again that you have absolutely no respect for anyone else but yourselves. If I were you I would be ashamed and embarrassed to keep using that technology after someone said I can't.

Using /restart CSV's to spy on people? Show some dignity!

Respect. A big word, isn't it? Respect comes not from the cool boats you fly or from the number of blue lines of text you get. Respect is earned through fun interactions and quality RP. You don't have any.

My oh my, where to begin.

First off, thank you for the kudos referring to early RP of my character...

Second, you say we are ganking you, yet 5 minutes earlier 2 Battleships and 2 other bombers (my numbers may be off on the amount of snubs) were there WITH you shooting us, AT your station. Once the BS's died and the other snubs ran off you were CD'd. Later on your friends would return with even more, and they would keep fleeing and returning/fleeing returning. The guy that gets stuck behind gets outa luck mate, we're not gona let you just go back, re-heal and come shoot us again. Also, YOU CAN DOCK, instead of flying random circles around your base (this is if I am thinking of the same situation). We don't want to allow you to escape like your friends did, because you will only ADD to the number of returning, fully healed bombers. Did I mention you have this thing called DOCK?

Third. You are WRONG when it comes to where we can fly. You are quoting an OLD rule, no longer in place. I spoke with Zelot just the other day.
[10/3/2011 8:59:54 PM] Caleb Levesque: can i take our groups council tech beyond Taus?
[10/3/2011 9:05:37 PM] Michael (Zelot): whatever, your merc ships can go anywhere.
I know you didn't intend to, but you are saying we are doing something wrong, which is NOT. I have made sure, from several sources that it is fine where we operate.

Fourth. What are you implying in the first place? That we intentionally screwed over The Council? Check the Com Channels mate... We are working through a problem that happened with a jacked up situation. Read my previous post for further details. LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR. The Renegades DO NOT want negative relations with the Council. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SCREW THEM OVER, we trying to be diplomatic allies, LONG LASTING allies, but a weird scenario happens and Pancakes instantly ran to remove our tech. Which was oorp in the first place. THERE WAS NO RP TO ALLOW COUNCIL SUDDEN *POOF BYE BYE WEAPONS* MAGIC ON OUR SHIPS.... The appropriate response SHOULD have been to either address us, FR5 us (and address us aswell), or start up a bounty. Again, we are NOT scamming the Council, and we are Role Playing to fix what has gone wrong.

Fifth. You are correct, this is well in the past though. We have admitted it wasn't entirely correct, take note it was my/our FIRST ever spy contract. If we get others in the future, we will work much harder to make it fair to everyone. Again, Deadric was very calm in how he took it, and I respect that very much so. It is in the past, I can do nothing of it now, except know that in the future there are changes to how we will 'spy.'


NOW THEN. In retrospect of this all. I can understand that you were upset that there was alot of Gunboats shooting at you, but given the situation, we were not about to let you go re-heal and come back as an extra bomber with all your other Corsair buddies. You were the victim of a end of a battle, all others were killed/ran off. You were AT a base (unless you speak of a different situation) take the hint and dock... Ganking happens, trust me I of all people know this oh so well. What I do is try to see the other side, as I have just tried to give you our side of the concept, I hope that helps you understand.

As for the Merc's going for the Blue Msg thing, well yeah, that's how we get paid. I'm not chewing my fingers off and drooling for them though. Even I docked/ran once the opposition got to heated, even though I may have gotten a few more kills by staying and fighting. We're not some lolwut group, we plan, we RP, we act according to our groups development.

I hope this lets you see things from a different view/clarifies some of the rules for you.

Keeping others view on game-play IS important to me, so I will search/work on ways to make interaction better in the future. As always, cheers.

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