' Wrote:No, Aerelm that is NOT the way a faction should act. Send me any applicable PM's so I can sort through it. Whoever it was shouldnt have even been there; thats way out of our ZoI.
I don't mind seeing Outcasts in Omegas with a reasoning behind it, because after all, I was personally involved in a part of Jameson's RP which dragged 101st into Omegas back in the day, so that's not really the subject of my feedback here. To describe the situation in short, this is what happened:
I undock from Freital and see a 101st tagged hostile 7k away, so I move in and start a very short chitchat which soon turns into me shooting him cause he decides to thrust away while dodging instead of replying to my message. Then, after a good 20k of chase, I finally arrive into a party of four 101st and a certain individual and what happens there, which left me with a "Is this actually happening?" impression was that the whole group of 101sts (Which, let me correct myself - Were 4 ships, not 5... But that doesn't really make a difference against a lone Odin, does it?) jumping on me with a 1-liner or two. Now, from an ooRp point of view, I knew well enough that 101st were there for a reason and they weren't just 'passing through' like that first 101st told me, but from InRp view, my char basically had no idea about why might the 101st be there before he got the whole group on his scanner. What happened then, was me gettin shot at by 4 ships who cruised away one by one cause I couldn't keep all of them CDed.
Now, let me clarify two things before giving my actual feedback:
I don't mind being ganked, even though I don't like it. Even as RHA, there are more than a few situations where I get ganked by at least 8 ships on a daily basis. So what I'm disappointed from isn't 101st deciding to gank their way past me.
This is not about the PvP, cause if anyone would ping me they could see I had 14% loss, which pretty much made the pvp impossible for me. I just logged in because I always remembered my interactions with 101st (Be it friendly or hostile) on much higher standards.
Then, to point out one last detail before going in for the actual feedback - I'm not complaining about the whole situation, cause it's generally something to easily shrug off. What I'm complaining about is people involved in it (Namely, the 101st) doing what just everyone esle does, because honestly... I expected much more from the 101st.
So... To the actual feedback:
From an InRp perspective: The part I consider 'poor RP' in that interaction is the very first piece of the puzzle - It was supposed to be a 'secret' mission, so what I call good RP would be trying to get it done while attracting least attention possible. The first 101st I ran into who seemed to be a lone Sabre lost in the unfamiliar Omega systems, could easily hold me off (Even if he couldn't kill me, which was unlikely cause with that amount of loss I couldn't hit him anyways) while the rest of the group easily circle their way around us and reaching o41 unnoticed. Instead, what he did was to drag me to where the main group was, revealing their presence and location and risking the whole mission. That part is the part I call for bad RP, which happens to be the part which left me with a "So he dragged me all the way here just to gank me off while he could easily take care of me himself." impression.
From an ooRp perspective: I used to fly with 101st a lot back in the day Jameson was leading. One thing I liked about the faction was seeing they share the same mentality of 'fairplay' as me. Sure, fairplay isn't something common on Disco nowadays, but it was at least nice to know one group of people who did stick to it no matter what. When I saw the 3 other 101st on scanner 14k away, my first thought was "Ok I'm screwed" but then I remembered the fights we had with 101st and figured "Oh well, they're not gonna throw all their ships on me, so let's go in and see what happens." but when I got into 2k range and noticed every member of the 101st present was throwin an engaging-type of message into local and coming in all guns blazing... That was where I was disappointed. Not because I got ganked, that's somethin that happens every time I log my RHA... Only because I was gettin ganked by a group of people who used to dislike ganks and try to prevent them as much as I did. But eh, factions change just as their membership does I bet.
In the end - My whole feedback is more of a "101st used to be cooler than this" type of deal, not a "who did what wrong", which is why I didn't include screenshots in my feedback and didn't bring up any names. But Patrician, if you still want it, let me know and I'll PM you the screenshot or two I have from that interaction.
