Independent Disco players

[Agmen of Eladesor]

Interesting set of ... well, to be perfectly honest, whining.

When you think that it's you against the entire forum, perhaps you ought to look at what you're saying and see if either you're not getting your point across clearly to support your argument, or perhaps you're actually wrong in your thinking.

First off, look at what official factions are. That is explained in the last sentence of FR1.

Official factions are guardians of the reputation of their NPC faction in general, and should always seek to act in ways that cause it to be respected.

Now, what authority does a faction have? That's in FR2.

RIGHT 2) Official factions have authority over players of the same NPC affiliation, as long as RP justification is provided. ... Official Factions cannot, under any cicrumstances, require another player to follow non-canon RP if that player doesn't want to.

Thus, in the BAF example mentioned previously, if the BAF 1ic or 2ic was around, they could tell the indies not to engage to overbalance a combat.

An example of "good" exercise of these rights is to require an independent player to not utilize a heavy captial ship against a smaller lone fighter or bomber, or to not enter an existing fight where entering the fight would unbalance it greatly.

However - canon RP also has the BAF hostile to the Mollies and the Corsairs both. So the official faction ships cannot order the BAF indies to assist the Mollies against the Corsairs if the indies don't want to do so.

By the same token, FR2 still requires that official factions allow indies to participate.

Official factions have a responsibility to incorporate willing and responsible "independent" characters belonging to their NPC faction affiliation into the ordinary operations and activities taking place in the faction's territory as much as possible.

As far as an official faction being able to FR5 someone with their own ID ... the BHG|Core did that. Twice - and not just to one single ship, but to an entire group. Actually being able to do that is still listed in one of the examples, even.

Example: An Outcast pirates fellow Outcasts in front of Alpha. He has been warned numerous times by Independents, Official Factions & players representing the Outcast Government. He either never responds to PM's or states " No speak English" . Screen shots are taken for evidence. With said evidence, he could be listed as Hostile to the Outcast even if he is one.

You have to have darned good in-game and in-forum RP to do so, along with supporting screenshots. It's not something that can be done on a whim.

Anyway, your basic premise is incorrect.

I would like to know how we can stop Independents from owning faction equipment... Having a faction ID, Faction Technology and IFF, and claiming they are not part of that faction is completely unacceptable.

With the exception of a couple of special factions - K|Hara, for example - the official faction does not 'own' the equipment. That's why and where you're in error. If they have an ID, they're just as much a part of the faction as you are - whether they're in the LN, the BAF, the BHG, or any other ID in the game. Your official faction may be the keeper of the lore as a representative of the faction ID - but you're not the entirity of the whole faction. Again, look back at FR2.

Official factions that are attempting to represent the entirety of a NPC affiliation have the responsibility to be caretakers of the history and evolving storyline of the NPC faction in such a way that it remains open to involvement by non-player faction affiliates to the extent that is permitted by the server rules.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.