51st and team rnc were in seperate groups, doing stuff separately. team rnc waited in texas for an hour, some even went back to rheinland and then back to liberty, and some abandoned the raid already out of impatience, so when you finally had a big group and started scouting out of virginia, that looked like a "hey lets pew in here" - you had a leg up on us by camping the jumpgate and pewing when we came through, and by having those nasty stationary labc's(?) and bs patrols working for you as well. liberty is so sensitive, it's really hard *not* to put a foot wrong. *shrugs*