seriously though, this is going off track but I think I'll join.
i think there can hardly be any doubt that Liberty and Bretonia has the best and most complete ship lineups. Yes, a Libdread flown properly kills a Turtle 10 out of 10 times. And having both LSC´s and LABC's means that Liberty pilots have the tools to either outmaneuver or simply outtank/gun the Rheinland Cruiser (which is a good ship in my opinion - Liberty just has a lineup that counters it).
Bergelmir and Wraith are better than any snub Liberty has to offer (in my opinion), but when it comes to caps Liberty's lineup is so complete that there's no point in denying its superiority over that of Rheinland.
