remember - we had a similar ... situation at new tokyo the other day - fleet of kusari criminals gathered up there - and as far as i remember, the argument was that its rather an incentive to play the KNF defenders. i guess the KNF would have greeted a few more independents flying capital ships there to fight with the villains.
anyway - last time i checked, manhatten was not rediculously camped by people. people are much better spread out recently... i even see quite some activity in bretonia - ( possibly thanks to uog and qco )
you want all independents to leave liberty - make a law like rheinland, that considers everyone hostile, unless innocence is proven. ( sort of - not really, in know )
anyway - i do agree that most capital ships ( both, faction AND independent ) don t really belong to any open core system place - except for large scale and sort of planned attacks. - but i ll include every player in that wish - not only independents .. and not only faction players.
a question to you all - would it be better if we had another set of IDs .... so called "guard <faction>" IDs? - so that you can only fly a capital ( gunboat - BB ) when you have a guard ID? ... but i am sure, quite a lot of faction people would be screwed, too then...
imagine getting your guard to maximum green - happy factioning up. - besides, it won t solve the "problem".
EDIT: allright - i just logged on, launched from manhatten and guess what. the same rogue battleship again - but that time with a hackers outcast dreadnaught. both dock camping. i just made a few chat lines to initiate my role - when i was blown up without a word by the DN. ( so much for roleplay a bit )
result, i get a tell by the dreadnaught "others did it to me - so i do it to others now" ( so - i ll agree, there are too many capital ship captains that have not the slightest idea of roleplay )