(05-21-2013, 02:35 PM)AeternusDoleo Wrote: This topic is pointless. No battleship will excel at every role. Light battleships are better at range - like the Ossie, LibDread, Mako, Togo. They can take the odd few hits, and can still dish out a strong amount of firepower, especially against targets that don't dodge as well - but as stated, if someone pins their wings with a CD and a heavy cruises up, their lifetime is measured in seconds. <...>
This is VERY far from reality. I'm kinda getting tired of that Myth, so instead of putting calculations, as I usually do, here's the Conn test from 10 minutes ago.
But first of all, a reminder - unless there're cloaks involved, battle always starts at high distance, and heavies will always get CD'ed by an organized force. Now, lets move to hypothetical scenario that medium BS does not have a CD'er, while one of the heaviest BS'es in the mod brought a Light Fighter with him. Let's also assume that Medium BS is just going at straight line and so using Engine Kill cruise drain bug becomes rather easy. (otherwise, he can just go away from your trajectory)
Ships - RMBS vs Liberty Dreadnought. Ship setups - Cau8, Full Cerb/Prim, full nanobots/batteries. Special Note - both adversaries were staying still at their places. (after RMBS cruised in) Dread was not trying to make it into turtles blind zone (top one), was not trying to strafe or move in any way. Same goes for RMBS. Engagement distance - nearly point blank.
1) Cruising on a LiDread without using EK energy recovering glitch. I.e., I cruised right in front of him (started at 10k), stopped, waited till my energy starts regenerating and started shooting. He, obviously, was shooting me all that time.
(LD had no nanobots/batteries left)
2) Cruising on a LiDread with EK energy recovering glitch. Started cruising at 10k, dropped to EK on 9-8.7k, approached at the speeds of 314-320m/s. Means, starting charging up somewhere at 3-4k.
I've spent all restored energy through cerbs only (since I had 4 of them)
Once again, that is a Liberty Dreadnought against RMBS under the "preferred combat scenario to ensure Heavy BS victory" by some people logic, when heavy needs to cruise up on light. Without the use of cloaks, obviously.
Take a note, that above test is not meant to show that LiDread is "so OP" !
It's meant to show that "cruise up" tactic, that people like to throw around, does not work. - compare the remaining hull of RMBS (super-heavy) after cruising to close range combat with medium BS to the remaining hull of your average Light/Medium BS pro (kiter/TS'er) when dealing with Heavy at high distance.
There is a way to kill a kiting/TSing light/medium BS while flying a heavy one, even at high distance (doesnt work on a turtle for me, though) but cruising up is not such a way. Or at least, that is the last thing you should try.
P.S. Credits for this test go to Timur, for helping me out.