When does a core 1 base die ? After 192456 years ?

[Thyrzul]

We're talking about the same thing, but we're not on the same page. What you describe above is what took place between the factions representing the NPC factions, I fully recognize that that was the course of events.

My question is, because Outcast leadership shrugged it off should my character and all other Outcasts that got hurt; all those that lost profit due to either a longer trade route or actually lost ships and cargo, just ignore it as a non-event? Cardamine-trade didn't get blocked, even though that was what we as players and our characters experienced?

Characters got hurt can do anything in accordance to the events, complain to TAZ, complain to Outcasts, eventually to both, continue smuggling, be mad on TAZ, whatever you guys wish to do, of course keeping the possible consequences in mind. I was however not aware we were discussing character decisions, were we?

I describe things as I experienced them through the prism of my Outcast character. He got shot by TAZ for no reason whatsoever, all the rest doesn't really matter to him. You are asking me to make an oorp disposition regarding other players and let that form my roleplay reaction. I don't really care for that, to tell you the truth.

You argue based on in-character experiences, but you argue on ooRP platforms, ooRPly. Why are you here then? Why don't you argue about the actions of the TAZ inRP then? I was asking you to make an ooRP disposition because this is an ooRP platform and not because I want your roleplay reaction getting formed by that. And I can hope you won't make the mistake many tend to do this day: Don't mix inRP with ooRP, please.

So that means that the "community", and I daresay factions, determine the validity of any event, even if the outcome conflicts with both in-game actions (by proxy through the base killing all non-registered Outcasts) and lore (the day TAZ starts attacking the Maltese Empire is the day TAZ gets destroyed)? I think that is unreasonable, too many things can just slide by that way if factions aren't paying attention or aren't bothered.

That means the group itself decides it's fate, not the individual. The TAZ by no means attacked the Maltese, rather unregistered and ignorant individuals triggered a defense mechanism of a station and caused an incident which could have been avoided.

It is funny you, as an "outsider" (because you admitted you are not part of the official outcast faction, just an indie) want to say how bothered official factions should be regarding your mistakes and how they should punish others for them. Want them to pay more attention? Write a complaint to them, write in their feedback thread, join them. Do something for it.

Sure, but what I am surprised about is the mutual agreement between the two factions to just let it slide, even though lore suggests that Outcasts are über-dependent on cardamine trade, are aggressive (at war with half of Sirius) and generally claim the Tau's as theirs, and TAZ are über-dependent on their neutrality with local powers and generally have a decent relationship with Outcasts whom have been transporting Cardamine through Baffin in peace for the longest time. It just doesn't sit right that Outcasts should just accept TAZ KoS'ing any unregistered Outcast vessel on that very vital trade route, neither does it sit right that TAZ should want to do so and de facto declare war.

Outcasts have a pretty much arsenal of enemies in the Taus: GRN, Council, IMG, CR, they barely need a new one on that front. Other thing, if Outcasts would have declared war on the TAZ just because of Malaclypse Freeport, that would mean they would pose a risk to a defense installation currently protecting three factions, not one. Both Council and CR would have joined their forces with TAZ in the defense of the station, and we are a bit closer to the station to defend it than the attackers. Would that really worth it just to retaliate for the mistakes of a few ignorant Maltese and a little missing income?

Besides, did TAZ KoS any Outcast vessel? No. Mal Fp Kos'd the only ones failed to heed the warning of the TAZ. Did it discriminate and only shoot outcasts? No, it pretty much shot at any other unregistered vessels, including mine, despite me being neutral with them as well. So it would be nice if you wouldn't use a tone implying that TAZ pretty much picked on Outcasts, bullying every little indie cardi smuggler, when they did not.

EDIT: I've seen you edited your message, so let me do the same here.

The base was actually shooting all unregistered Outcast and thus actually hampering the flow of Cardamine in-game, no forum posts can change that, but it seems to me that because the NPC factions agreed that they didn't want to play out things this way it was ignored. But that still leaves a base with actions that severely contradicts the roleplay and the outcome of it accordingly. That's not exemplary base-RP to me.

1.) Two parties are required for an incident to happen. The indie outcasts are at least as much to blame here as the TAZ, portraying them as innocent saints is just plainly wrong.
2.) If the official faction did not act, that can be the result of not much indies reported that they has been shot at by the base. Just because you argue again and again that the flow of Cardamine has been seriously damaged/disrupted/hampered/whatever, that doesn't mean it is the truth. If the rest of the outcast community did not think so, it may most probably not been such an issue to worth starting a war and a siege against three factions.
3.) If you feel the Outcast official faction did not follow your vision of lore/RP, you are free to complain about it to the faction leadership, or the Admins, on channels designed to it, such as the faction's Feedback channel or PM. You may get an answer from them too regarding their decision, but this is definitely not the place for that.

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