(06-10-2013, 04:49 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: Characters got hurt can do anything in accordance to the events, complain to TAZ, complain to Outcasts, eventually to both, continue smuggling, be mad on TAZ, whatever you guys wish to do, of course keeping the possible consequences in mind.
When the official outcast stance is being passive, there's not much one can do, even though that laissez-faire approach totally conflicts with what the relationship between Outcasts and TAZ is supposedly about. Let me ask you this, had ZA been the Official faction and those opposing them indies, would ZA roleplay then be "correct" according to lore/background?
(06-10-2013, 04:49 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: You argue based on in-character experiences, but you argue on ooRP platforms, ooRPly. Why are you here then? Why don't you argue about the actions of the TAZ inRP then? I was asking you to make an ooRP disposition because this is an ooRP platform and not because I want your roleplay reaction getting formed by that. And I can hope you won't make the mistake many tend to do this day: Don't mix inRP with ooRP, please.
We are discussing roleplay, aren't we? You fleshed out the roleplay view of TAZ, I laid out my view of roleplay and the experiences my character had in-rp. The idea is that we try to understand one another, and I do think I understand the TAZ roleplay reasoning, that Baffin is their property and Bonito is sacred and off-limits to those who don't respect TAZ ways. I'm just asking you to see the other side of the coin.
(06-10-2013, 04:49 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: That means the group itself decides it's fate, not the individual. The TAZ by no means attacked the Maltese, rather unregistered and ignorant individuals triggered a defense mechanism of a station and caused an incident which could have been avoided.
You assume and dictate that stupidity is the only reason not to register in-rp, whereas there are countless other reasons such as necessity for anonymity, sense of freedom, pride, arrogance, disdain and so on. Don't make assumptions on behalf of other players, it's not your prerogative. The Outcasts see themselves as Outcasts for good reason, and they fight those who oppose them viciously. On paper, at least.
(06-10-2013, 04:49 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: It is funny you, as an "outsider" (because you admitted you are not part of the official outcast faction, just an indie) want to say how bothered official factions should be regarding your mistakes and how they should punish others for them.
When you say "my mistake", do you mean me as a player? Or my character? I believe I didn't make a mistake as a player, I shouldn't be obliged to monitor comms threads and base posts to avoid getting killed by things that lore and ID-wise are neutral entities that by no means should shoot at me - their ships would have been sanctioned had the shooting been carried out that way. My character didn't either - he's a lord of the Tau's, why should he bow to a petty group of religious freaks that can be crushed instantly by the Maltese Empire? Why would proud Outcasts except such treatment, and why would they be ok with leadership that ask them to bow before TAZ?
(06-10-2013, 04:49 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: Want them to pay more attention? Write a complaint to them, write in their feedback thread, join them. Do something for it.
I did, we all know feedback threads are a joke when it comes to stuff of real significance and it's always been like that. I'll never post in one again because there's no point really. You are also claiming I didn't do anything for, but that's quite frankly untrue. I am a part of 2 Outcast factions already, I wouldn't want to join a third.
(06-10-2013, 04:49 PM)Thyrzul Wrote: Did it discriminate and only shoot outcasts? No, it pretty much shot at any other unregistered vessels, including mine, despite me being neutral with them as well. So it would be nice if you wouldn't use a tone implying that TAZ pretty much picked on Outcasts, bullying every little indie cardi smuggler, when they did not.
Ok my bad, so you are saying the base indiscriminately bullied every unregistered trader then, regardless of affiliation. I didn't know, I only witnessed and experienced Outcast ships killed.