(06-10-2013, 05:20 PM)Anaximander Wrote: When the official outcast stance is being passive, there's not much one can do, even though that laissez-faire approach totally conflicts with what the relationship between Outcasts and TAZ is supposedly about.
Why, what is the relationship of the Outcasts and TAZ?
(06-10-2013, 05:20 PM)Anaximander Wrote: We are discussing roleplay, aren't we? You fleshed out the roleplay view of TAZ, I laid out my view of roleplay and the experiences my character had in-rp. The idea is that we try to understand one another, and I do think I understand the TAZ roleplay reasoning, that Baffin is their property and Bonito is sacred and off-limits to those who don't respect TAZ ways. I'm just asking you to see the other side of the coin.
I told you I've seen both sides of the coin, having a character currently leading one of the forces it defends, having a character the station once shoot at. What I was asking you is to do the same, as I did not feel you doing so. Now you claim you understand the reasoning behind the bases, so frankly, what are we arguing about?
(06-10-2013, 05:20 PM)Anaximander Wrote: You assume and dictate that stupidity is the only reason not to register in-rp, whereas there are countless other reasons such as pride, arrogance, disdain and so on. Don't make assumptions on behalf of other players, it's not your prerogative. The Outcasts see themselves as Outcasts for good reason, and they fight those who oppose them viciously. On paper, at least.
True, there may be other reasons not to register on such a list. But then there comes the consequences: Does it worth to risk my cargo, my life? Does it risk to provoke a war who knows if my nation will ever have a gain from? Your regular Maltese may not consider the latter, but the first one definitely should. As far as I know birth rates are very poor among the Outcast population, meaning that every life is important, too important to disregard such risks.
(06-10-2013, 05:20 PM)Anaximander Wrote: When you say "my mistake", do you mean me as a player? Or my character? I believe I didn't make a mistake as a player, I shouldn't be obliged to monitor comms threads and base posts to avoid getting killed by things that lore and ID-wise are neutral entities that by no means should shoot at me - their ships would have been sanctioned had the shooting been carried out that way. My character didn't either - he's a lord of the Tau's, why should he bow to a petty group of religious freaks that can be crushed instantly by the Maltese Empire? Why would proud Outcasts except such treatment, and why would they be ok with leadership that ask them to bow before TAZ?
I've been talking about the mistakes of your character, sorry, I did not make myself clear on that.
Proud outcast, lord of the Taus, does have his enemies in those systems, so he better thinks it twice who he considers to be crushable by his nation. Proud outcast may not have to bow before said religious folks, but I trust his judgement not to question the existence of a station enjoying the backing of three factions and with that a combined force capable to rival the Maltese Navy on that front, I dare to say.
(06-10-2013, 05:20 PM)Anaximander Wrote: I did, we all know feedback threads are a joke when it comes to stuff of real significance and it's always been like that. I'll never post in one again because there's no point really. You are also claiming I didn't do anything for, but that's quite frankly untrue. I am a part of 2 Outcast factions already, I wouldn't want to join a third.
I did not claim anything, I merely told you what you should do in my opinion in such cases. Your complaints about lack of results from the Outcast side implied to me a lack of effort in reaching your goal as well.
(06-10-2013, 05:20 PM)Anaximander Wrote: Ok my bad, so you are saying the base indiscriminately bullied every unregistered trader then, regardless of affiliation. I didn't know, I only witnessed and experienced Outcast ships killed.
That is why I wanted you to see the overall scheme and judge the relevant parties by that, not just a fraction of evidence.