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Offline Syrus
06-25-2013, 11:51 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-25-2013, 11:57 AM by Syrus.)
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Currently you need 37 heavy battleships, firing all the energy they got "with Cerberus turrets", to damage a Core 4 base with 3 repair commodities and shields up. Everything less is just a waste of time, unless you're out for wasting repair ressources ... 2 of each at max every 16 seconds, so 10.8k of each at max PER DAY. You're not really doing much to the base then. Unless you manage to drain one ressource completly. For your info, it takes 25 heavy BS with Cerberus to trigger draining all three ressources (or rather: for damaging a core 4 base with only 2 ressources), and 13 heavy BS with Cerberus to trigger draining two ressources (or: damaging a core 4 base with only 1 ressource).

Back to damaging a base with 3 ressources.
If the base's shield runs out of fuel (NO SHIELD) the base will die in 5 minutes 8 seconds to ONE SINGLE heavy BS using Ceberus turrets. Now, that means: 100% damage against the base. If you say "50% damage against the base with the shield up", double that time.

With a shield though, the base, coming under attack by the fleet needed to actually go through the repairs (at least 37 heavy BS with Cerberus, using Cerberus only, not draining energy otherwise and not coming under attack or anything), the base will take 13 hours 13 minutes 53 seconds to deflate. Put in one more heavy BS using all its energy on Cerberus turrets: 3 hours 51 minutes 3 seconds. Significantly less, of course. That's because the repairs are now out-damaged and the damage goes through against the base without being repaired for that one BS as well as "part of the 37th BS". 40 heavy Cerberus BS and the base dies in 1 hours 35 minutes 33 seconds. Just fyi.

That's 37 of the heaviest and highest damaging ships required to take out a Core 4 base. Everything else will just drain at maximum 10.8k of repair supplies (which doesn't matter if it's not more than one repair supply being used, see above for how many BS' needed to use more than one supply. Also, it might happened to use more than one supply every now and then, I guess, when it comes under damage, but that should be insignifcant) as well as 16.2 k units of MOX (or 21.6k units of H-Fuel or 27k units of Deuterium) per ONE WHOLE DAY OF SIEGING. Better stack up on stuff that will keep you awake. If you break the siege at some point, the base will probably be restocked and any damage done was just a little inconvenience for the suppliers at best.

Now, I'm not saying bases should be dying like flies, I mean, there was tons and tons of work put into them. Millions of cargo units needed, billions of credits spend - that's all a lot of time. Time which is REAL. A lot of effort put into them. Neither am I saying though, that the attacker should stand no chance.
If you ask me, which I know, no-one would ever do, hehe, I think smaller Core bases might even be dying to quickly. Core 1 and 2. A base without shields dies too quickly, it's really a matter of 1/4 of an hour, even for a light BS just using primaries, even against a Core 4 base with 3 repair commodities.

Thing is, the attackers can't do anything really. A little harming, yes, a little more supplying needed. But unless a base is not taken care off in the slightest (running out of repairs and / or FOW), a base will just generate a little more work when coming under attack. A little more work.

As I said: the attackers aren't what kills a base, the suppliers/caretaker kill it.

I could suggest solutions for this ... but, honestly, I don't feel like it. Also because I'm not sure if my solutions are even possible...


EDIT:
Also, my siege calculator:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...sp=sharing
(I got a copy of it. Actually two. But still, please only edit the WHITE CELLS)

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Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-22-2013, 10:12 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Occam Razor - 06-22-2013, 10:14 PM
RE: Base Shield - by belarusich - 06-22-2013, 10:21 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Haste - 06-22-2013, 10:57 PM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-22-2013, 11:01 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Yber - 06-25-2013, 11:17 AM
RE: Base Shield - by evanz - 06-22-2013, 11:10 PM
RE: Base Shield - by sindroms - 06-22-2013, 11:13 PM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-22-2013, 11:17 PM
RE: Base Shield - by belarusich - 06-23-2013, 01:20 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Thyrzul - 06-22-2013, 11:42 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Remnant - 06-23-2013, 12:27 AM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-23-2013, 12:10 AM
RE: Base Shield - by kikatsu - 06-23-2013, 01:28 AM
RE: Base Shield - by AshHill07 - 06-23-2013, 01:45 AM
RE: Base Shield - by Big_B - 06-23-2013, 02:03 AM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-23-2013, 10:18 AM
RE: Base Shield - by Zen_Mechanics - 06-23-2013, 10:26 AM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-23-2013, 10:33 AM
RE: Base Shield - by Exploration - 06-23-2013, 10:33 AM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-23-2013, 12:56 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Maximk - 06-23-2013, 01:15 PM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-25-2013, 01:26 AM
RE: Base Shield - by ryoken - 06-25-2013, 02:11 AM
RE: Base Shield - by AeternusDoleo - 06-25-2013, 09:19 AM
RE: Base Shield - by dirmaster0 - 06-25-2013, 04:11 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Zen_Mechanics - 06-25-2013, 07:32 AM
RE: Base Shield - by Syrus - 06-25-2013, 11:51 AM
RE: Base Shield - by AshHill07 - 06-25-2013, 12:12 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Syrus - 06-25-2013, 12:52 PM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-25-2013, 12:57 PM
RE: Base Shield - by AshHill07 - 06-25-2013, 05:14 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Skorak - 06-25-2013, 05:32 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Highland Laddie - 06-25-2013, 05:44 PM
RE: Base Shield - by AeternusDoleo - 06-25-2013, 06:37 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Skorak - 06-25-2013, 06:13 PM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-27-2013, 12:33 AM
RE: Base Shield - by GTB - 06-27-2013, 10:54 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Haste - 06-27-2013, 10:34 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Haste - 06-27-2013, 10:55 PM
RE: Base Shield - by Veygaar - 06-27-2013, 11:03 PM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-29-2013, 08:16 AM
RE: Base Shield - by Spike Seadra - 06-29-2013, 08:39 AM
RE: Base Shield - by SnakeLancerHaven - 06-29-2013, 08:53 AM

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