(07-01-2013, 11:38 AM)GTB Wrote: So where do you draw the line then? 3 bases wouldn't count? Are 2 already
Quote:sufficient? How can the gaming of 2 players have an impact on a whole system when the actions of 10+ cannot? How can it be that bases that are set up by a inRP very small faction that couldn't even have the power to set up 2 bases can reasonably set up four, without any support from their peers while screwing over everyone?
InRP O74 is sealed from the outside, they have no friends left that could open up a corridor for them. The bases were set up oorply and are supplied oorply, thus their lifetime is oorp, too. They contribute nothing to the discovery RP server safe for bringing out the worst in people wherever you look- and while it might be unfair to blame it on the ZA alone i would whip out a nice 1.1, 1.5 and 6.9. hammer sprinkled with a bit of 2.1 for abusing game mechanics to achieve the former.
Kill off the bases, refund the guys so they can set up shop in an actual unclaimed system. And yes there is no guideline because few people would ahve thoguht that there are players that overstretch the limits by that margin. This situation is simply bad for the general server atmosphere- and within this atmosphere painfully obvious oorp actions should ahve absolutly zero influence on lore.
I’m betting if you did that, you removed the ZA bases and refunded them back with cash. That may well end ZA as a faction on the server. No amount of money refunded back can repay the time they’ve invested building 4 bases up to Core 4 level. Don't underestimate people being TICKED OFF because you just removed months of their hard work put in, that they just up and leave.
And thinking they would re-build those bases again in another system is wishful thinking I’d say. You know what would most likely happen, those people who’s been trying to kill their 4 bases now at Core 4 and failed, would make any new ZA bases built in another system (starting at a lower level) an early target to take out next time around, because some of these people are base killing lolwuts who would jump to ALT char to do it. You can see that one happening right away!
It's sad, all this with ZA isn't about inRP anymore. It's all about removing their bases. Why remove their bases anyway, delete them. Why not leave them intact, but move them into another system - if they was willing to do something like that to end all this?
Wrong, just wrong.
The two main things you might have not realised is: ZA used those bases to lock off '74 in the past two times now, because it suited them after they got a bloody nose from some people
After the initial sieges against any base were not successfull, at least every faction opposed to ZA tried to to negotiate by roleplay with them the dismantling of a part of their turrets. Still, ZA does not even try to make a counter proposal within roleplay, so that all factions can happily continue and leave each other alone.
Instead again: A "Lolnope" from ZA again. And you are surprised that a little faction with only a 3-5 players oorp draw so much anger?