Sanction Reviews

[Mark_Brown]

Good Afternoon Discovery,

My forum name is Mark_Brown but I'm better known as "Bellck" or Chris under Presidency of Universal Shipping Incorporated as Charles.Bell within Liberty.

I've been here since the beginning so I've seen the server grow and the admins grow with it.

After going through these talks about sanction reviews, I do have plenty to say towards them and I'm not a bias person at all.

@Vigilia.Procuratio -
Here, many sanctions are being made and the threads closed when the accused has tried to put forward their defence. That is not my idea of a fair trial. If the accused has reasonable grounds to issue an appeal, it ought be heard.

Mark: This is done as Widow has kindly said through Private Message, I don't think its in the interest of all discovery for everyone to know who's done what and I don't want to see pictures of people swearing on here either just to prove evidence. Needless to say what the other community members would say to such member regarding that sanction "Your a bad member of disco, get out ext" It would only encourage the average keyboard warrior into bulling.

@ V
In any case, the manner in which we put forward our evidence was sufficient in its integrity and depth, in so much that the common members trusted the outcomes. That is what we need here: trust.

Mark; That depends on the trust of the players also, this isn't directly down to administrators here, people could be doing it to bully a player for sanction reasons or pushing them far enough in-game just so they do swear so admins have to sanction them. Admins do have hard decisions to make when it comes to sanctions, but I do believe if someone does break the rule regardless of bullying it should be a punishable offense. I have only one saying here, and I say it to all my members of Universal.
"Say it don't type it."
Further more, if you do believe a player is bulling you, speak to an admin it is why they are here.

@ Widow
Getting the communities input has been thought about before, but it wont make anything any better. All it will do is encourage the naming and shaming of people - and I personally don't believe anyone who tells me that it wont be translated into game.

Mark; Widow has my full backing on this, its happened before and has generally forced members off the server. It's unfortunate and I'm glad this is the way admins follow up sanctions via private rather than having the community's input where it is not needed at all.

@Widow
These are far and few between but are occasionally processed wrong.

Mark: This is true, I've had a sanction lead against me before and it was processed wrongly. I managed to get enough sufficient evidence and pm said admin back and ask for a review. Needless to say, an apology was given and my equipment was returned. I guess members shouldn't be too harsh on admins and understand that as window has correctly said and I quote'

"The community needs to understand that we are only human. We get evidence submitted to us and sometimes we get it wrong. We all know this and are happy to admit we made mistakes."

Mark; Further more I don't think changing the way admins pursue sanctions or delegate consequences should be changed, and I'm happy with the way things currently are running.

I hope this is sufficient for you all to understand. If anybody would like to further discuss this with me through skype you are more than welcome to do so;
Please add me;
"bellck"

Thank you.

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