(11-15-2013, 04:18 AM)Agmen of Eladesor Wrote: Well, obviously first and foremost, the actual bounty board itself is frakked at this point, because it states:
Quote:Server Rule 6.10 states that player reputation and conduct must match player actions.
There is no rule 6.10 anymore - so it's little things like this that mean we need to have the bounty board rules re-written. However, there is no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water, either - simply take what's there and re-write it so that it (a) makes sense now in line with the rules and (b) doesn't give players the out that Sindy mentioned here:
Quote:all the complains I have seen about the bounty system seems to be made by people, who would love nothing more than to get away with hostile actions taken in lawful space.
So - let's take a look at the new server rules for a second:
Quote:1.3 Every player must have one ID equipped on their ship. Actual ID items do not exist in roleplay and players must be treated based on their IFF, however, every player should follow the restrictions and allowances listed in their ID. In cases where these restrictions and allowances conflict with the server rules, the ID overrides the rules.
So it seems that the main complaint is pirates who want to have a get out of jail card - I'm a Freelancer! - while flying around with a Pirate ID so they can do unlawful stuff.
Now - realize one OTHER minor detail that IS still in the rules.
Quote:Official player factions have the right to bounty or attack any player who is using their technology and not using the faction ID.
That would tend to indicate that ID's DO exist somehow - otherwise how would you know who has stolen your technology.
Obviously, of course, the easiest solution is to simply eliminate the generic pirate ID. You want to be an unlawful, go ally yourself with someone who already is a pirate. Just because you want to be a crook doesn't mean you should get a free ride doing so - which is what you all seem to advocating for.
Okay, you don't like that? Then quit complaining because guess what? Just because your ID that says you're a pirate doesn't exist in role-play - your ship registration, your actual pilots license, or whatever papers you have to have your ship show DO exist in role play. Come on, you buy a car today the VIN number is etched all over the damn thing. You have to have SOME kind of transponder on your ship. While you can get away with some of it being false and hidden (your Freelancer IFF) - that doesn't mean that a more detailed scan of your ship and the information that your transponder is putting off doesn't mean that you don't show up as a pirate in the lawful database of the neural net.
That's why this whole garbage argument about ID's is, based upon canon RP, bogus. Everyone is hooked up through the neural net. You want to scan something with your ships sensors? You're going to immediately have similar to AFIS be searched by everyone who is lawful or a bounty hunter to see if the information available on the neural net shows that this person is unlawful and bountied. That's ALSO why we HAD to change the bounty system away from simply peoples names - once the renameme command came out, it was required that something like a blanket bounty come out. Ha, you bounty hunter, the posted bounty is on Carmen.SanDiego, and I'm Diego.SanCarmen, so you can't touch me!
In other words, quit complaining and just play the damn game. You want to be unlawful? Get over the minor detail that someone WILL hunt your butt somewhere, and deal with it.
Why is everyone thinking that I'm complaining because I was shot at by a merc? I was using it as an example. Damn people. I'm ok with people shooting at me. I tend to shoot back. With friends. What's even more hilarious is that while you guys are complaining that I am complaining about being shot is the fact I was on a tagged pirate faction ship.
You would think that an unlawful that knows his stuff would make sure to remove any indication he is an unlawful from databases. Scratching off VINs, Getting the Lane Hackers to wipe the factory data.
Your right. People will know. Which is why there should be some RP involved. Have a bounty board where people pay information on known pirates for money. The cop-out of saying "You pirate ID, you die" is feeble and not very conducive to the atmosphere of this server, which is Roleplaying. Sure. The Renameme plugin kind of makes this harder. But it's a whole heck of a lot better than the current ID being considered Quasi-inRP.
The Rules are contradicting themselves. They need re-writing. That's the point i'm trying to make.
And still waiting on an admin to pop their head in and give some sort of indication of well...life.
Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts... perhaps the fear of a loss of power.
