Oh it's that thread derail again? And I see same familiar faces saying same things over and over again, as if that going to change what and how other people think. Would I have to conclude that some folks here, they who had been around for quite a long time, are so woefully naive? Or should I conclude that in these cases it's simply easier to be a critic on internet than a doer? Of course it matters none whatever I conclude, nevertheless I just can't take seriously those endless rants, debates and occasional hysterical shrieking as if some bad person had stolen a lollipop for you. Truly remarkable. All those mindset camps, accusatory thrown back and forth, quite bizarro.
And one more thing to add. Plenty are unable to discern their wishful thinking from demands and suggestions. Sometimes intentionally so. It's very simple, very classic. "I'll like you only when you do this and that suggestion post here". Suggestions don't hold opinions of others as hostages. Demands and ultimatums do.