(02-22-2014, 02:41 PM)Jinx Wrote: to be more precise
nephilim:
this is the most prominent candidate - and the one that may have cause the most immersion-breaking-problems. Its original purpose ( 4.82 and before ) was to be a secret zoner dreadnought of immense power, capable of withstanding an entire corsair taskforce and able to rain retribution upon whoever threatened the freeports.
its purpose and role changed to that of a semi-generation-ship or rather a ship for extended missions and semi capable autonomy.
HOLD IT!
.82? And before? This is going back years and years and years. Surely people have established RP around this ship? Changing it from one sort of heavily armed-armoured ship to another doesn’t really change that much in terms of gameplay. And roleplay can be either kept the same or adjusted with minimal effort.
(02-22-2014, 02:41 PM)Jinx Wrote: the role of the ship will focus on that aspect - and the ship is about to become a sort of superliner with teeth. - think of a battletransport in of greatest size - not capable of withstanding any serious assault, but capable of defending vs. the occasional attackers ( like a wing of nomad NPCs ) - while being able to take a lot of punishment and ferry a large amount of goods ( maybe comparable to a minibarge - but for the sake of game mechanics - thats all rather in your heads and not in the stats )
I can’t defend against a wing of Nomad NPCs in a cruiser. I live in Australia and I sit on about 400 ping and 10% lag/loss as standard so NPC ships tend to flip out around me. It’s hard to shoot things that teleport all over the place.
There’s also the problem that the Nephilim model currently is huge. Literally. Apart from Barges and planets it’s the largest thing in the game. (And some Gallic stations but we don’t talk about those. Official Dev policy I’m afraid. The game resources that get put in Gallia stay in Gallia).
And Zoners can’t land in anything above a 3.5 (3.6?)k cargo ship. So a big ship that carries less cargo than the whale. Is less maneuverable than the whale but is about the size of the entire solar system and holds less cargo than the only other ship that fits these criteria is the barge and that has been stated in the past to be the only ship that will have more than 5k cargo because reasons. Reasons that I personally agree with. I think, I can’t remember them very well. but it was something to do with balance.
(02-22-2014, 02:41 PM)Jinx Wrote: look and feel of the ship is meant to be more like a superlarge utility ship that is meant to operate long long long periods of time on its own, sustaining its crew.
the ship won t be capable of assaulting other ships even half its size though but maybe it might be capable of taking the damage to get to a friendly port. - for that matter we must hope that other ( non zoner ) players respect the new role, too and do not attack "just cause they can" but only if they have sufficient RP and reason for it. ( but thats a lost cause i know )
It’s me again! Surprise. So let’s see, you expect that other players will respect the new role and vulnerability of the ship? Let’s look at the main faction that will not under any circumstances respect this. And rightly so. The Nomads. They exist to kill Humans, or something. That seems to be their main purpose in the mod, they are the antihuman alien. I can get behind that, sometimes I really want to go on a genocidal killing spree too. But the fact of the matter remains that the Nomads have good reason inRP to kill a colony ship. And a lightly armoured big as all hell ship floating around in the Omicrons is asking for a rocket up the backside. Let’s not forget that the Nomads also have gunboat patrols in Omicron Kappa (And used to have Battleship patrols, not sure if they still do… Anyhow. in a whale I can barely get away from a gunboat patrol. And that’s only because I can dodge. Something that is like 5 times the size of that and gets stuck on every asteroid going is never, EVER, going to be able to dodge any kind of fire. The fact that it can still not land in house space is going to be a turn off as well. I mean, some of the house factions might start using them but Zoners won’t use them.