(01-16-2015, 10:06 PM)RedEclipse Wrote: So Finn, this ID was created only because you and Conrad disliked a label of Zoner on your Zoner group? Ehm, Zoner ID has many roles to be played("stigma" is not really a reason to restore dead IDs), aswell Freelancer ID too. You simple run away from RP aspect and used admin powers to restore useless ID.
I wish every group in disco would have same abilities to run away from "labels" and "stigma". Otherwise that ID are returning together with elitism.
Wait, didn't you guys at Phoenix opt to make your own ID rather than just use the Zoner ID? As Finn mentioned, he and Conrad took time to make their case, rather than fast-tracking an application. If it got passed easily, it's probably because it was mature, well-written, and they didn't go into it with the posture that there's some vast conspiracy against them.
Drrobe Wrote: Also, over 3 pages of discussion took place between the Admins (Including Alley about what perks we'll assign it), so it wasn't a "Oh look, me and Conrad have idea. Yes? Yes." A little more took place.
Also, the "elitism" argument is pretty tired. This isn't a society with extra barriers to upward mobility - class, poverty, race, gender, belief, etc. The things that count here are how well you get along with others and how reasonably you can make your case to persuade others by what you write. Choosing to be a confrontational rebel on the fringe, fighting the system head on, is an entirely personal decision.