The greater issue here without pointing out rule conflicts or differences in opinion.
I've had to moderate stuff like this in the past I've done it since before disco existed so im going to Impart you you an important lesson here. While my roleplay servers all had active moderation and results to peoples rp Discovery is way more static.
We are essentially exstending the story of what happens in game with forums threads and stories. I appreciate highly people want suspension and a good interactive post by post RPG but that doesent actually work in this circumstance. There too many hot heads on all sides. I dare say it will not work at all in this case.
Ideally everyone would come together develop lore between two factions with both parties liking the result. none of this ooc conflict none of the ooc snags and interpersonal BS. CLEAN and FUN and CREATIVE. but we arent even close to that mentality here. People are too busy pointing fingers at the past mentality of the congress and LN.
These two are worse then a barril of rattle snakes.
I love joe and sara (both of em) and JT and chris these people are friendly easy to get along with (yes I'm serous Chris too). If there wasent baggage this would all be a non issue. Factions change hands and this happens again?
The RP conflict that drives activity for both sides is being seen as an obstacle and not as the driving force of RP here. Thats a big mistake. Im calling it because ever many dragons evil sorcerers and deadly space pirates that have been killed over the years I've always had to make up a new threat a new protagonist. Disco however is more static. We all exchange these roles equally In game and on the forums.
Discoverys Rp balance is imperfect but its the blend of community rules that give official factions stake in the mods lore that makes things appealing.
It permits players to have a part to leave a legacy here and imprint on the story. People have Lived played and died here and those of us who remember them do our best to enshrine them or at least remember them in this legacy we all take part in.
Its not as easy as when a group of players on NWN decide to formulate a plan to kill the dragon emperor of fathi al fahdil.. succeed and get xp goodies and a cool story to remember.
In disco we have no npc's of relevance our characters are owned by us and when someone wants to kill our character you damn right were going to defend it. Factions included. There is no permadeath here.. infact critically speaking discovery must have some extremely impeccable ejection seats cause i dont think many volunteer to post results of every defeat they have. For me that would be nearly thousands of posts...
No what we have here requires the same level of planning and cooperation it takes for my players to formulate their adventures. We can have epic stories characters that live and die here if we dare to make them up int he first place. But whats going on in this latest drama is a symptom of this misunderstanding that cooperation is KEY.
I myself am vary afriad that the parties in this latest issue are beyond accord. But im going to point out why its important regardless.
We need the liberty navy we need the nemesis because without it running the black market is pointless and one sided. YOU NEED junkers you need official junker factions to be both sides of the lawful and unlawful otherwise who is Ln going to catch red handed?
If it was as simple as removing the contraband from the pob's that would be one thing but this issue keeps popping up. At some point help has to happen from both sides to make rp work.
Im not going to blame the Lib gov or the .:j:. for this break down. Im blaming the lack of cooperation.
You know who one of the biggest gun runners in history are? They arent some warlord they were governments selling surplus. Corrupt elements that should exsist withint he rp of the LN LPI and LSF do not exsist enough for the junkers to have the foothold they do in liberty.
But if thats the point if were being edged out of liberty does that benefit the mod? I dont think it does. i dont see how such a sone sided change benefits anyone at all.
The actions being pulled and the power play happening doesent seem to have a clear objective at least where I stand. And without a cooperative pact or idea on how they want this situation to evolve.. im compelled to say there IS not good reason for it.
Both parties have been in direlect of a working relationship. and you know how i know? When i ran the nomads I kept talking to the BHG order indies and officals all the time. they were interested in working up events and rp. the omicrons are dead now i mostly blame myself for not sticking around but that was rl's fault. but the breakdown in communication the being sick of disco the whole no one wants to play together BS is killing this place.
this lastest topic is just a symptom. and really when even the admins dont wanna rule or be concerned with it. then it really is the end.
the admins doing thier own thing
the devs doing thier own thing
the factions doing thier own thing.
we all effin deserve it. thats gunna be my final point on this mess. if you honestly want me to rply to something else beyond this pm me where you can find me. im over it.