(05-11-2015, 01:36 PM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: It's FR5s screwing over factions that broke laws in Borderworlds (in accordance with their ID/repsheet; see ALG in Liberty
Tal's correct, this was over events that took place within Liberty. I might be wrong, but I can't recall DSE ever crossing paths with ALG in the Borderworlds in recent history. Also, this happened over a year ago. As the one managing DSE's affairs in recent time, I've consciously kept things quiet between ALG and DSE from that point onward (pushing to close our bounties on ALG, etc).
Seeing threads like this and the Faction Leaders' Skype chat, I feel like a lot of people have made mass FR5s some kind of boogeyman that's around every corner when really, almost everyone agrees that it's a pretty crappy thing to FR5 an entire group all the time at the drop of a hat. Instead, we cite a few old examples here and there and recent "near misses" in order to justify knee-jerk changes. In reality, the "near misses" are due to cooler heads agreeing that mass FR5s suck, and each time that happens it reinforces the sentiment that it's a bad idea. As a member of LibGov, I can confirm that a mass FR5 occasionally gets brought up when we discuss crime and punishment simply because we're going over our options, but in recent time it's been shot down just about immediately because we agree that it's poor form.
I'm not totally trashing the change. It's good for all faction to be able to exercise their ID without fear, but not at the cost of creating awkward situations for one side or the other, being unable to act sensibly for fear of the rules. With that said, factions should still have FR5 because legitimate abuses do still occur - we just need to stop thinking of it as the first response.
Anyway, this will certainly require more fine-tuning, but it's been good to see a better level of civility from the community and visible receptiveness from the staff. Need to read more to suggest specific improvements.