' Wrote:@chopper; We were NEVER at war with CR. We were hostile, not at war, with BSG, after it had split from CR, and that was because of BSG's own actions. Also, its sold on bases other than IMG, as Doom mentioned.
@The lot of you.. The Taiiden is just as RP as the Civ Bomber. Its made by GMG, a Zoner ally, and is sold on a Zoner Freeport. Hence why I used it. If I didn't care about the RP of it, I wouldn't forbid my members to use Falcatas.
On the Tizonas, any of the TBH has no right to complain about it.. When setting up the cease fire with McNeo, I had 'No using Corsair ships or equipment, and TBH down as 'No using Zoner ships or equipment.' McNeo asked me to remove the equipment part, and specifically mentioned that we were allowed Del Cids. I agreed after talking to a few other AW. Given that, yes, we are now hostile again. And you can ask all of my members, that they have been warned that if they buy any new Corsair equipment other than what they ALREADY HAD, I personally would be kicking them. We have, I believe, only 4 Del Cids in total, with none on our armoury.
@Global; Again I say. If you have evidence of what he said, send it to me. I punished him for the acts I was given evidence for, please don't turn the thread into a flame war with made-up excuses. If its not made-up, prove me wrong and I'll take appropriete action.
Also, you were not privy to the convos between McNeo and me. I showed him everything that happened and discussed it with him, warning that if it happened a fourth time, we would be hostile. When it did, I moved you to hostile, and told McNeo he would have time before it was announced. He had the oppertunity to give me some reason to stay Neutral. He said; There is nothing I can do to convince you, so I'm not even going to try.
Also, Omi-74 is a guard system 1 jump from Theta. Corsair Guard system is TWO jumps away. Your home system is Gamma. Zoner's home system is Theta. Zoners have full control over it, how else do you think they prevented Corsairs from making a base there, or do you not pay any attention to the news, only what helps your case?
And yes.. We've tried Furies. My LF has nothing but Furys, not even civ shield busters. However, on fighters they take a lot of energy, on bombers they don't do enough damage, as you can only use 4 of them. So we use Nomad weaponry and Codenames. Not Del Cids on them all.
Now on the Outcast Ships; We use the Rogue and LH GB/GS at the moment, as we don't have any better alternative. Thats why I've offered the IMG, but you guys come up with a reason not to use it to. So if you guys know everything in the world, how about you tell me what I can use in place? Hmm? Why do you think all of the indie Zoners fly IMG GBs if they aren't fighters? Because its the only one available. We have the LH GSs because of our prior alliance, and Rogue GBs because for a long time it was all we could use (before IMG GB or LH GSs).
For OC Battleships.. I take it very few of you have read the infocards on the battlestars? Go take a look.. So instead we have a flagship in a Juggernaut, but it cannot leave Theta because any asteroids get it stuck. For awhile, I've required anyone who wants a BS to have appropriete rank requirements, and then they MUST write an RP for it. The Caedo was mae before I decided that, but I was planning on turning it into an OC BS as it can get through asteroids better than the OC Dread, plus the dread is supposed to be rare, so it makes sense for the OCs to own the majority, if not all, of them. I was planning on RPing the sale of that Dread to the Outcasts. Other than the Jugg and 2 Bstars, those are the only ones we are close to being able to get our hands on. Plus, you all seem to have missed what I said before about the jugg.. I'm hoping the new one can navigate asteroids, and if it does, I'll be requiring ALL battleships to be one. However, we do have to leave Theta occasionally, and to do so we HAVE to leave through a field. I was planning on helping the TAZ at Gran Canaria as the only BS, as a stationary siege platform. Unfortunately, that event took place while I was not at home. However, doing that took me 20 minutes to get to Omega-49, a 2-system trip.. And it'd be much, much worse for a Bstar. If you guys can offer me an alternative to the Bstars, I'll use it. I'd use the Osiris, due to alliance with the Order (even RPd with Bs|), except that Corsairs use it often, so i thought it'd be frowned upon. So which would you rather? OC BS or Osiris? Pick.
@Equinox; We have an RP for the ships we use, thats why I allowed them. As I said above, if they want us to use ally ships, the Osiris, we will.
Also, We are not permanent enemies of the Corsairs, something you cannot say about the Blood Dragons. Also, it was AGREED on the cease fire, and McNeo was the one who wanted it, that equipment was still allowed to be bought, so I allowed my members to buy Del Cids. As mentioned, they are only able to use what they have bought, not allowed to buy any more. I know where all of those Tizonas are, so if someone does buy any, I will know about it.
And we DO use the Zoner Destroyers, even though they are less agile, and have far less firepower as the Outcast Destroyer. Oh, and its much easier to hit. We could use the Outcast Destroyers, but we do not, as we have an available Zoner ship to use.
Now, keep the flames DOWN please.
So what your saying is that the AW can use there enemy's weapons? because it really doesn't matter what the reasoning behind it is, the fact is that every other faction on this server is NOT allowed to use hostile factions weapons so my question to you is why should AW be any different?.
And please don't use the flame card, no one has flamed you or the AW, what people have done is brought up valid reasons as to why you shouldn't be using those weapons or flying a ship from a supposedly neutral faction. I ask you this, if a new faction proposal was posted and in there ship list was ships from factions that are neutral to the faction they are aligned to do you think it would get passed? because I don't believe they would, they would be asked to change there ship list. Its not really up to us to come up with an alternative for your battleship problem, if you don't have a ship to use from a friendly faction then you don't have a ship in that class like any other faction in that position.