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(07-28-2017, 04:29 PM)Wesker Wrote: A, you can't gank something with turret zoom.
B, The whole concept of fair fights is just a stupid double standard for people who can't live with getting killed, or wan't everything out of conn to be clean in their favor. In the middle of a giant fight with 30 people on either side like say this are you seriously going to pull someone aside and say "hey I want a 1v1 give me or you're an unfair group of *****"??????? Then comes the whole logic of, "well at the end of the fight its nice to give the last target a 1v1 because you shouldn't mind missing out on one blue". Read that over again, and tell me how dumb that sounds. "Lets give the guy that was targeted last a chance because... why not?" Really? In pvp there's a "winning" side and a "losing" side, if you cant get over the fact that you lost and are being the last one killed, than you probably need to grow up a bit. If it were me at the end, or some other veteran pvper or someone that the opposing group disliked, do you think they'd give that person (me) a 1v1? I can give you a hint, the answer rhymes with "go".
The logic behind wanting fair fights in every case or at the end of a fight is completely stupid, "Wawawawaaawwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I WANT MY FAIR FIGHT" Grow up, when I fly into liberty as a xeno I have carriers shooting me left and right, when I fly in Omega-5 I have to deal with stuff like this no one ever gave me a fair fight at the end of a group battle. No one ever asked me for a 1v1 while I was flying RHA in Dresden and Omega-5, I didn't whine about it, I just got better and killed them.
Fights are far more intriguing, adrenaline rushing, and exciting when neither side holds back. All the events that people genuinely enjoy like Royal Flush, had no "fair fight" garbage latched onto them, fun fights are possible, but people advocating for this sort of "fair fight for me" double standard is what's preventing it from happening.
No hard feelings to you Benji, but to everyone who advocates for this sort of thing, it's not going to happen, grow up and actually try GETTING BETTER rather than whining.
Nobody says you should force fair fights, silly. Just that you don't join an already existing gank since there's no reason to other than the small chance of getting the blue message, which I guess feeds some people's egos. The intentional overexaggeration with the 1v1 example doesn't make any sense to me. Flat out demanding fair fights is stupid, but if there's an opportunity for a fight to be fair or to not be fair, why not at least try and make it fair. That doesn't mean asking for duels in a 30 man groupfight, but for example if you see the enemy side side losing ships drastically, consider pulling people out on your end. Small things like that would make fights much healthier overall.
That's another problem - It's very hard to get an actually balanced fight in a Discovery PvP in terms of numbers, skill and luck because of the snowball effect. As soon as one side gets a small lead, they can usually turn it into a greater one and one side steamrolls the other pretty fast. Only rarely do you see for example a 10v10 snubfight ending in a 2v0, and more often you see something like an 8v0.