"You're right to be curious in asking me what I've got to gain from it. I believe we all have something that we are interested with that location. It's no secret that the location is old and was once controlled by the kusari government. Obviously now as well, we know it is infested... If you were to seige and claim it, I am sure the location and fortifications of the base would be highly beneficial to you both... As well as serve a statement to others of your power and might. I am sure as well there can be some hidden mysteries inside. Plenty of things to uncover for your research in nomads and the like. For me, well... You guessed right that I am looking for knowledge... A special piece of knowledge, rather. Nothing nomad related, I assure you.
"I've been thinking about this for a while and thinking about possibilities where a certain blueprint would be hidden away. A blueprint that would contain one of the more luxurious kusari royal craft built. Well... What better place for them to archive such a ship's design than there? A ship, might I add, that the emperor himself flew.
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"We know those blueprints are there because we need those blueprints to be there so that we can find those blueprints in order to make a Satsuma srp".
That reverse logic about justifying the existence of something because you need it to advance your OORP agenda is poor and basically meta-gaming. What does AFC truly know about the Arch? Did you know that the last attempt to reclaim the Arch miserably failed, KNF discovering how filled with deadly traps and automated defense systems the inside was?
The inrp reasoning is similar to some group of civilians saying now "Hey guys, I'm sure there is something very valuable in Saturn orbit because you know... Nobody ever goes there. So let's ask the help of some governments who totally don't have their own priorities and make them spend loads of resources with close to no reward so that we can find that thing we know to be there."...
Can you see the problem?
(12-02-2017, 10:42 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: [...]
if i am putting this much of pain and suffering as I am getting right now for a stupid event, i should get something at least out of it.
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(12-03-2017, 09:10 AM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: [...]
It's too much of a pain in my side to deal with all these people and the community's backlash and NOT ask for a little something in return.
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Did you consider that maybe you were receiving so many negative comments about it not because people are out to get you / want to antagonize you / are jealous, but because they genuinely believe this thing makes little sense?
Your justifying you should get something to offset all that "hate" you are getting is flawed logic. You are probably getting so many negative comments because that idea is poor. Getting negative comments does not increase its merit.
It's as if someone was shooting himself in the foot, complained he cannot walk fast anymore, and then justified pushing people around to be the first one to be served anywhere because of this infirmity.
I can understand you want something unique and that's fine, but please try to see this from another perspective.
AFC is reaching to the Order (who are busy fighting a war against the Core and Nomads) and the Blood dragons (Who are trying to consolidate their advance in Nagano system to seize planet Tomioka) to attack and invade a nomad stronghold that even greater powers with far better logistic in the area couldn't reclaim, just in order to find blueprints they -assume- to be located there.
AFC would thus be using Order and Blood Dragons as mere pawns to get what they want, those two organizations diverting resources from fronts surely judged as more important to their own interests, for close to no reward whatsoever, and the risk of significant losses?
As for the Satsuma, lore wise there were only two. One for the Emperor (may have moved to Leeds right before the final stage of Planet Leeds invasion), one for the Shogun (May be drydocked in Kusari or was scrapped by the Republic to increase the fleet reconstruction efforts). Those ships are supposed to be extremely costly to build and to operate. How would a small organization like AFC could begin such a costly project, assuming they ever find those blueprints that - conveniently - should be on the Arch? How would they even sustain the upkeep of a battleship? Shouldn't a liner be more efficient for the assumed role in a lore perspective?
If you really want something unique and cool, which I can understand, wouldn't that be funnier to ask someone to make a unique liner for AFC?