(11-04-2018, 05:07 PM)Xalrok Wrote: Should neither base be destroyed, the one is most damaged will be considered destroyed for the purpose of the event.
Credit for the writeup and event concept goes to @Durandal.
(11-04-2018, 11:11 PM)Durandal Wrote: I do have a problem with allies coming in for the sake of being allies and throwing literally everything against the Outcasts since they have no friends with warships in the area.
(11-05-2018, 10:47 AM)Alley Wrote:
(11-05-2018, 10:31 AM)Thyrzul Wrote: Or you could chose either of the already eligible ones...
This. There is no need for this to become an everyone and their mom event.
(11-05-2018, 09:51 PM)Durandal Wrote: No. That's bringing in a party that can only support the CR side, which will not happen.
(11-06-2018, 04:45 AM)Durandal Wrote: The issue of "The OC playerbase is larger/more skilled/better organized" is kind of falling upon deaf ears with me, because those Outcast players are part of a larger whole. We're all here playing Discovery, and if the Discovery community has decided the Outcasts will be the victors, then that will be the result of the event. It's like... cliques are being seen, and recognized as cliques, but not as people who are choosing the direction Discovery goes in.
What I'm trying to say is, if Discovery wants one side to win, that side will win, and its a pretty insular attitude to make this about either side's playerbase.
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There's been a long long trend of these sort of events being attempted, and then the staff abruptly shutting them down due to mass outcry from whichever side isn't capable of attracting the winning group. If you're not capable of doing that, its definitely time to look inwards. I myself, and many others, have been flying for both sides. The Outcasts? They don't have a problem with that. Crayter? Well, I hear a guy was kicked for switching to a hostile bomber, for trying to play Discovery Freelancer 24/7, instead of trying to play Crayter Republic 24/7.
Play Freelancer, not Cliquelancer.
Allow me to summarize.
You've taken two factions.
One of them a vanilla endgame faction, which contains multiple official and unofficial player factions and also a much larger indy population, which pretty much every pvp ace in discovery has a character in.
The other a small non-vanilla niche faction which is known to be non-elitist and noob friendly, and therefore shunned especially by l33t pvp aces because pvp is a choice of "outnumber or lose" for anyone who plays with and not only against noobs, and the l33t aces who spent years honing their skills hate that because they feel they're entitled to win.
Then you told both factions that they, all of their players and characters, will gain a game asset if they destroy the game asset of the other group, and lose it if they don't. You ruled out the option of both sides gaining, keeping, or losing. It's either lose your asset or destroy the other faction's asset. And of course you didn't ask for the involved factions opinion beforehand.
Then you watch them beat the crap out of the weaker faction, telling the weaker side "look how much the community hates you", pretending the imbalance is due to them being bad people whom everyone hates, as if there were no blatant differences between the nature of the factions or a certain degree of hypocrisy and sadism involved in the "l33t" part of the community. And you call that "the community" while you're simultaneously making sure that other parts of the community don't intervene to help the side which everyone knows is weaker.
Kudos. Such panache creates confidence in you for having the right priorities, and commands real respect and admiration.
On a serious note, I don't care if Outcasts get a base in Baffin. It's even a good thing if it creates more activity. Even us losing a carrier and access to t29 and t31 would be a step backwards, but still manageable.
What really, really, really, REALLY sucks is HOW you did it.
The imbalance, the lack of asking for opinions, the hypocrisy, the smear of CR in this thread, the hours of wasted time right clicking, the drawing away of players and their activity from potentially fun activities into hours or days of right-clicking. If you weren't doing this with the sole purpose of expressing your hatred for a faction and/or its players and sending them a giant F U using your dev position as a tool, you did a really bad job at what ever you thought you were doing.
