Atlantis class Liberty Carrier

[jimmy Patterson]

true, but the attitude he's been taking with other players who want new ships is what ticks me off.

Eternal asks for one new order battleship to replace the osiris, and Xing goes off about how the order just wants to be overpowered and have tons of ships and curbstomp liberty... Yet liberty has 9 more ships right now than the order does, including a full line of capships.

To list them, the order has four ships specifically developed for them: Anubis, Nephthys, Talon, and Osiris.
Liberty has eleven ships to it's name: Patriot, Liberator, Defender, Guardian, Avenger, Executioner, Havoc Mk2, liberty gunboat, liberty cruiser, liberty assault battlecruiser, liberty assault carrier, and liberty dreadnaught.

and on top of all that, trying to model this new carrier after the osiris, and giving it technology only the order is supposed to have... Sounds like a powertrip to me.

order tends to lead to powerplay"omg uberadvanced i pwn u all"libertty has the capacty to be right behind the order if they tried they have the biggest industrial body and the fleet is twice that of any house

Tenacity
first off, I still maintain the fact the Order does not need any more capital ship. My opinion was that no pirate should have capital ships anyhow, but it is Igiss' decision.

The design looks very liberty according to the majority so I guess your opinion is mainly biased by your general hatred of Liberty because you werent able to adapt to the rp decisions of the official liberty factions. And you hold grudge against me because I dont want to see another Order battleship since they already have a vanilla one. Fine by me.

As to why another carrier; first off, not ANOTHER, it is a replacement for the actual one. As such, Igiss mentionned there will be no ships removed from the mod, and I believe the actual model is highly unpopular due to it being an import from Star Wars. This is my reason to create a more Liberty version of it; and you can't deny the axe head of the ship, the dome shaped command center of the deck (etc) are not Liberty concept.

So, you stand down and boil your anger on another planet, thank you.

*signed on above

I'm sorry Tenacity but you are mistaken. The Osiris was developed by Liberty as a next generation battleship, something to replace the aging model that was currently(and still is in use). Yes it was stolen by the Order, but that doesn't mean that the technology used within it is exclusive to the Order.

Seeing as it was developed in Liberty they would have redundant copies of the plans for the Osiris in every secure location possible, at least in my eyes, and if thats true why in their right minds would they stop developing technology in that vein and still and just sick with aging battleships while all the other houses are developing newer stronger technologies?

I give it my seal of approval Xing, great work.

*Sgned on above

Excuse me? Take a look at the ID, infocard, and newsboards in-game. The order is not a pirate faction, they're lawfuls, and just because they're an enemy to YOUR chosen faction doesnt mean they should be stuck with a ****ty ship line.

Further, the order is the most advanced (technologically) faction in sirius. It may have started out by stealing liberty's designs, but they've got an entire 'army' of scientists and engineers now, developing their own equipment and ships.

Everything I hear out of you when it comes to the order is "they're my enemy, so they should suck." Sorry, but that aint how it works.
I hold grudges because of your biased attitude, no other reason. The model's engine and side-pods look nothing like what's currently in-game, and the front hatchet looks like it was designed by the order, not liberty.

You want honest, constructive criticism? Ditch the tubes entirely, put launch bays along the sides of the ship, shorten the hatchet on the front, and replace the engine tube - it's too long and doesnt resemble current liberty capship engine design.

no comment on above

xing it looks awsome it gives that librty testament of power feel that i think liberty like america should have its the amrrican way"if you got it show it off" and ;lliberty was based off america and carriers like battleships in world war two do just that they say "were big were bad were powerful do not F** with us"

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