"Sometimes the time of talk is over and the time of actions begins. It is hard to compare our meeting to our centuries old war against the Kusarian government and the oppression we faced. Matsuda fought with words and laid the seeds of our movement. It was only when she took action by trying to assassinate the governor that our movement started flowering. Who knows. If she never did, her movement would have faded away, absorbed by the system that she defied." She refilled both of their cups with sake
"Understand that the emperor himself has little true power. The Imperial throne is just a tool that those in power use to legitimise themselves. This is just another false reality established by the system. Power in Kusari is very diffuse and it actively works against someone obtaining too much of it."